Piping Items - (Transposer/Filter Alternatives)

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ryyr

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Hi all,

Sorry if this has been answered before. I'm back playing Minecraft after almost a year off. I previously played Ultimate (with RedPower2) but now am playing on a Direwolf server.

I know there are a lot of alternatives for RedPower2 objects, but I'm having trouble finding alternatives to the Transposer and the Filter. I need machines which can
  • move an item from one inventory to another only if the second inventory has a free slot
  • draw items from multiple inventories and deposit into a single inventory
The two examples I'm currently struggling with are:

Example One

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In this example I receive Cobblestone from an Enderchest (attached to a quarry), then funnel it through a series of buffer chests (to increase storage capacity) into a recycler, then move through a buffer chest into a second Enderchest. In reality this setup would use 12-16 recyclers and have a storage capacity of about 200,000 blocks, capable of handling inputs from 4 quarries simultaneously.

The system only works if each inventory continuously passes items to the inventory in front of it, and then stops as soon as the next inventory is full. Transposers were great at doing this. Buildcraft pipes very quickly produce overflow, and with a looped circuit the system becomes very inefficient and there is the risk of the pipes bursting.

Example Two

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In this example I am trying to semi-automate the fuelling of Stirling Engines. The first ender chest receives lava buckets from the Nether, then passes them through a buffer into the Engine. The filter immediately pulls the empty bucket from the Engine and sends it back to the nether via a buffer chest. Every now and then a player goes to the Nether, fills up all the empty buckets from a pump/tank and puts them back into the circuit.

This may seem pointless, but when there are 48 Engines powering a Quarry one player having to spend 2 minutes refilling buckets is a lot better than refilling every machine every 40 minutes!

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!

PS: is there a good alternative to the Frame Motors to produce moving platforms? I used to enjoy easily picking up my equipment from one mining site and moving it a few dozen blocks in one direction, rather than having to rebuild everything
 

Brian Cherrick

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Depends on what version you're using. If you're talking redpower2, I'm assuming 1.4.6? In the 1.5.2 pack and beyond I used Applied Energistics (Not sure if it was in the 1.4.6 packs) as my piping system of choice. With enough export/import buses you can sort/transport damn near anything, and have more compact designs as well.

Is something to think about.
 

Wagon153

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Moving platforms can be done with MFFS. Itemducts are smart enough to not move items if none of the inventories in the line can take it.
 

ryyr

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Hi Brian,

Sorry, I'm on a server running the latest Direwolf20 pack (v1.0.14 for Minecraft 1.6.4).

Alas no more RedPower 2 :(

I was looking at AE, does it work well for moving between inventories, rather than storage?[DOUBLEPOST=1392737420][/DOUBLEPOST]Hi Wagon,

Thanks! I'll check it out.

I haven't come across Itemducts before, are they able to pull from inventories as well?

Will check them out :)
 

Wagon153

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Hi Brian,

Sorry, I'm on a server running the latest Direwolf20 pack (v1.0.14 for Minecraft 1.6.4).

Alas no more RedPower 2 :(

I was looking at AE, does it work well for moving between inventories, rather than storage?[DOUBLEPOST=1392737420][/DOUBLEPOST]Hi Wagon,

Thanks! I'll check it out.

I haven't come across Itemducts before, are they able to pull from inventories as well?

Will check them out :)
Yes they can. Check out Direwolf's spotlight on Thermal Expansion for 1.6.4. :p
 

rhn

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Hi Brian,

Sorry, I'm on a server running the latest Direwolf20 pack (v1.0.14 for Minecraft 1.6.4).

Alas no more RedPower 2 :(

I was looking at AE, does it work well for moving between inventories, rather than storage?[DOUBLEPOST=1392737420][/DOUBLEPOST]Hi Wagon,

Thanks! I'll check it out.

I haven't come across Itemducts before, are they able to pull from inventories as well?

Will check them out :)
AE can do it all. Automate moving items in and out of inventories or use inventories as part of the network storage. You can control if and when it moves items by redstone signals or by monitoring stored levels in the network etc. AE is NOT a storage mod. It is a full automation mod that also has storage included!

Itemducts can pull out of inventories and will deposit in the first available inventory. But you can set priorities and black/whitelist items for both pulling out items and inserting them. Its rather limited, but cheap and simple to set up.

Logistic pipes is an expansion on normal BC pipes to make them intelligent. It will make them able to supply items on demand to certain inventories in the network who needs/requests/can store them. And it is completely compatible with AE.

Extra Utilities also has a unique piping system that is quite robust yet simple.

Factorization routers are still available, but generally best suited for jobs where you need to insert/extract into/from multiple inventories at once.


The very simplest solution to the first setup you have is a Hopper/Grated Hopper combination from the mod Hopper Ducts mod.