Overcoming Big Reactors supply bottlenecks

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CookieB

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I recently got into Big Reactors while playing Agrarian Skies, I noticed that while delivering the goods created by the reactor to a turbine with a tesseract works very well, it does not work so well if you plan to deliver by using a ME bus attached to a turbine.

I came up with a way to be able to interface turbines of Big Reactors to ME and thus to be able to create steam buffers.

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First of all you create atleast 2 tesseracts to transport steam and water.

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Now you connect a fluid export bus coming from your ME storage to a tank, set it to 1000mb/tick moving mode.
Add fluiducts to each free side of the tank, add a tesseract to the fluiduct and set them to send the fluid to your recieving tesseract on the turbine.

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In this picture you can see the water supply I am sending to my passively cooled reactor.

The resulting view of my turbine

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The supply bar of steam doesn't stutter, it is fixed in place which means it is well supplied.
 

KerbecsDX

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Wow! That's a lot of power. When I played AgS, I just built multiple reactors (without turbines). Took a lot of resources, but it worked. I feel like building a turbine now.
 

epidemia78

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Good job figuring all that out. The only reason I would ever build a turbine is for the wow factor of having a huge rotating blade so I wouldnt worry about efficiency so long as they keep turning. But I dont play AG lol. I think they would look really cool as part of some sort of space station or airship.
 

Skyqula

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Looking at your reactor it seems it isnt cooled. Active cooling trough water is 1 step, adding coolant fluids inside is another. And they stack ontop of eachother. Secondly, looking at your turbine you are not returning water (water tank should be empty when it is). Once the setup is roling it doesnt need anny external water input. As steam is converted to water back into steam at equal ratio's. Other then that, I do aprove of ME for building up a nice water supply to kickstart the whole thing. Much better then building 50 accumulators :D

Note: Turbines seem to bug out with the water output. Use some sort of pipe to pull water out, then replace it with a tesseract as a workaround.
 

midi_sec

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Looking at your reactor it seems it isnt cooled. Active cooling trough water is 1 step, adding coolant fluids inside is another.
using coolant in a steam producing reactor does nothing unfortunately.

Secondly, looking at your turbine you are not returning water (water tank should be empty when it is). Once the setup is roling it doesnt need anny external water input. As steam is converted to water back into steam at equal ratio's. Other then that, I do aprove of ME for building up a nice water supply to kickstart the whole thing. Much better then building 50 accumulators :D

Note: Turbines seem to bug out with the water output. Use some sort of pipe to pull water out, then replace it with a tesseract as a workaround.
he's already got the infrastructure built, so might as well roll with it...and if you look closely at the 2nd picture, he has a tesseract hooked up to transport water.
 

Skyqula

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using coolant in a steam producing reactor does nothing unfortunately.

False. Like I said, the effects stack ontop of eachother. Dont believe me? Try it. Or you could delve into a spreadhseet I made: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1df7-8OqdOeWppfr1xZsV5eFqBWUeGGvtyQ6e1agJN2s/edit?usp=sharing

he's already got the infrastructure built, so might as well roll with it...and if you look closely at the 2nd picture, he has a tesseract hooked up to transport water.

Well aware, you might want to reread my post. There is a bug where turbines dont output water untill you specificly used something to pull it out. AKA, a tesseract as the first thing ever connected will not work. (it will after connecting something else first)
 

rhn

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Looking at your reactor it seems it isnt cooled. Active cooling trough water is 1 step, adding coolant fluids inside is another. And they stack ontop of eachother. Secondly, looking at your turbine you are not returning water (water tank should be empty when it is). Once the setup is roling it doesnt need anny external water input. As steam is converted to water back into steam at equal ratio's. Other then that, I do aprove of ME for building up a nice water supply to kickstart the whole thing. Much better then building 50 accumulators :D

Note: Turbines seem to bug out with the water output. Use some sort of pipe to pull water out, then replace it with a tesseract as a workaround.
I believe it is also not just a matter of cooling. There is the whole point of managing the radiation to exploit it to produce more energy and irradiate the core further for increased fuel efficiency. At least that is the case with passive reactors and is the whole reason why the best setups use different kinds of materials in layers(for example the usually best setup of a Resonant Ender "jacket" to slow radiation and Cryotherium/Diamond block core to allow the cores to irradiate each other.
 

midi_sec

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snark returned with snark? alright then.

A while back I played with the mod. I set up both types of reactors and a couple turbines, and then I uninstalled it. I didn't see a difference between active cooled reactors with or without coolants inside, and by your spreadsheet, I can see why. I tried an active cooled reactor with and without water inside, and by your spreadsheet the yield is exactly the same as with air. Seeing those results, why would I have continued experimenting? Surely water should give some cooling, but it didn't, so I didn't pursue any other coolants.

so... my bad? I guess?
 

rhn

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snark returned with snark? alright then.

A while back I played with the mod. I set up both types of reactors and a couple turbines, and then I uninstalled it. I didn't see a difference between active cooled reactors with or without coolants inside, and by your spreadsheet, I can see why. I tried an active cooled reactor with and without water inside, and by your spreadsheet the yield is exactly the same as with air. Seeing those results, why would I have continued experimenting? Surely water should give some cooling, but it didn't, so I didn't pursue any other coolants.

so... my bad? I guess?
Found this posted in the comments here(not sure about source):
http://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeas...eactors_efficiency_speculation_and_questions/

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Explains why you see no (or negligible) result using water instead of air. You gain a bit in moderation, but loose some in Permability.
 

LoGaL

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looking at the spreadsheet somebody linked, it seems like there is difference between a flowing coolant block and a still coolant block, while i thought there wasn't
 
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CookieB

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Well aware, you might want to reread my post. There is a bug where turbines dont output water untill you specificly used something to pull it out. AKA, a tesseract as the first thing ever connected will not work. (it will after connecting something else first)

As of the current version that I played a tesseract as the first block does work, I used the overflow setting on the turbine and tested it by shutting down the water supply from my ME. Without the overflow I wouldn't be able to cool my reactors when they are at full capacity.