OP FTB Pyramid Trick

[Nuclear_Creeper0]

Warning: May Be Patched
The Resource Generator Uses 2,000 RF to make One Charcoal, One Charcoal in a Furnace Generator makes 16,000 RF. You can create a system using transfer pipes and an energy cell to have infinite charcoal and infinite power.

 

[Pyure]

I agree with NC on just about nothing, but this struck me as a bit odd as well. I actually assumed it was deliberate however and decided I just wouldn't abuse it.

 

[vegeta897]

You can also use numismatic dynamos with emeralds (or even better, diamonds with the lapidary augment).

It must be intentional.

 

[Pyure]

Isn't there supposed to be harder modes forthcoming? Maybe that sort of shenanigan is only forbidden in the hard modes, while we're playing on easy or some such.

 

[SolManX]

Isn't there supposed to be harder modes forthcoming? Maybe that sort of shenanigan is only forbidden in the hard modes, while we're playing on easy or some such.

That's my feeling. This mode does seem to be more for people getting used to mods.

 

[Nedrith]

To be fair, you are using up the entire resgen though to produce only 8x more power, which would then need to power other resgens to create resources to use and other machines. Yes it's infinite but resgen speed is also important. Not sure what the power limit on the creation of resgens but you do require more power per a resgen the more resgens you make.

With that said I'm looking at coal from resgen to pulverizer to magma crucible to 2 stills to compression dynamos. A quick and likely slightly inaccurate calculation in my test world suggests that a single resgen can create ~ 13000 RF/T using 16 or so compression dynamos upgraded to resonent tier with 3 auxillary transmission coils and a ignition plug. All other machines were upgraded with speed upgrades minus the specilization in the stills for better refined fuel production. Could get more RF/T using more dynamos with some efficiency upgrades. As a bonus only 1 pulverizer,1 magma crucible, and 2 stills were needed to fully max out the resgen when the machines were fully upgraded.

edit: apparently the upper limit on resource gen power creation power usage is only 1 million RF. So it probably wouldn't be that bad to create the extra generators for charcoal.

 

[Pyure]

Does the resgen have any kind of significant cost? (I haven't checked) Otherwise it seems trivial to just spam it.

 

[Nedrith]

Overall not really. It's 5 blocks of iron, 1 block of redstone and 3 wood planks. There is a energy cost. Believe first use is something like 25k RF then second use is something like 200k then a million RF. first two numbers are likely a bit off. When I first made the post I only made 3, So I figured the cost constantly increased since the powered crafter has a 62m RF buffer. However I crafted 2 more and they maintained the 1m RF cost.

 

[Pyure]

Overall not really. It's 5 blocks of iron, 1 block of redstone and 3 wood planks. There is a energy cost. Believe first use is something like 25k RF then second use is something like 200k then a million RF. first two numbers are likely a bit off. When I first made the post I only made 3, So I figured the cost constantly increased since the powered crafter has a 62m RF buffer. However I crafted 2 more and they maintained the 1m RF cost.

Still, I like the idea. Its a "soft control" towards mitigating abuse, which I like to see in game design.

It means we can have a steady trickle of infinite resources but scaling it up isn't (quite) as simple.

 

[Nuclear_Creeper0]

Welp at this point for me, FTB Pyramid is little more than a crafting montage for all the complicated recipes and me lugging charcoal for my EU and RF generators. Yawn

 

[Pyure]

Welp at this point for me, FTB Pyramid is little more than a crafting montage for all the complicated recipes and me lugging charcoal for my EU and RF generators. Yawn

Nod you might as well move on elsewhere.

 

[Nuclear_Creeper0]

I have persevered and am close to finishing the two power quests. Unfortunately, you can't do anything else until you've finished those quests.