New Computer

[CPP2599]

Hi,
So right now I have two computers, one "family" computer that runs windows xp and has low pc specs and a computer that is mine but most of the times it doesn't even turn on.

That said, I'm thinking of buying a new computer, a laptop, nothing to fancy, just something that can run most FTB packs at least 40 FPS or so, or with no-lag (30 FPS, right?). I've a limit amount that I could spend, top-top 500 € (about 650 USD Dollars)

It has also to be a computer to work on.

What do you guys suggest? If I need to be more specific just tell me XD
Also it would be good if you guys tell me what to look on a computer, I don't know much about it, just that I need Ram,a good Processor and... well don't know more about it :/

Thank You
CPP

 

[TheMechEngineer]

Whatever you do....DO NOT get a laptop!!! I know it seems like bad advice considering laptops can be great value for money, but I've traversed the laptop road and it's not pleasant.
You can get good laptops above $1000, but below that is nightmare zone. I had a $1000 'gaming' laptop which fried its graphics after 2 years because it got too hot even with a laptop cooler, and family members in my clan have bought numerous $500 laptops that struggle playing Youtube videos or browse the internet without freezing up or having dodgy wireless internet connections.

Regardless of the amount of money you have, research and find computer stores that build custom computers. For my PC there is a great store I go to where you can approach a staff member, tell them what kind of computer you need and what your budget is, and they can spec up a custom system and build it for you. It really takes the headache out of choosing parts and building a custom computer yourself, but you still end up with a very upgradeable and great value PC. Not only that but they will most likely only stock brand-name parts, so you get warranties on each individual part, plus a store warranty if you're willing to pay extra. When my laptop fried its graphics, it was out of warranty and I was faced with sending it to the manufacturer to get it fixed, so it ended up becoming a throw-away item.

I just had a quick look at what stuff is available, and if you want to include a monitor within your budget then you'd be looking at a system like this:

• 20" Asus monitor with speakers
• 3.1GHz Intel Pentium dual-core processor
• Micro-ATX H81 motherboard with integrated sound
• 4GB RAM
• AMD 7750 1GB graphics card (this is important because motherboard graphics are awful for gaming)
• 500GB hard drive
• DVD writer
• Micro-ATX case with 400W power supply
• Windows 8.1

That all costs about US$605. Not only would you still have almost $50 to spare if you wanted a better motherboard or something, but I reckon you should see much stronger performance than any laptop can offer.

 

[DeadPillz]

Just a quick tip (I had that problem with it not turning on), just replace your powerpack, you've probably had a power shortage and not even noticed and now your powerpack is useless, if you really want too see if your power pack (PSU) is the problem open your computer and look for a flashing green light on your motherboard, if not then yes the problem is your psu and it needs replaced.

I mean, wouldn't you rather spend 50-100$ than spending 500-600?

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• Micro-ATX case with 400W power supply

400w imo, wow you really don't want that, one day you upgrade your GFX Card then turn your computer on and bam power surge your whole computer is fried. Please don't go for 400w's esspecially with a gaming pc (unless your a IT tech who knows exactly how much power your computer needs.)

 

[psp]

Whatever you do....DO NOT get a laptop!!! I know it seems like bad advice considering laptops can be great value for money, but I've traversed the laptop road and it's not pleasant.
You can get good laptops above $1000, but below that is nightmare zone. I had a $1000 'gaming' laptop which fried its graphics after 2 years because it got too hot even with a laptop cooler, and family members in my clan have bought numerous $500 laptops that struggle playing Youtube videos or browse the internet without freezing up or having dodgy wireless internet connections.

Regardless of the amount of money you have, research and find computer stores that build custom computers. For my PC there is a great store I go to where you can approach a staff member, tell them what kind of computer you need and what your budget is, and they can spec up a custom system and build it for you. It really takes the headache out of choosing parts and building a custom computer yourself, but you still end up with a very upgradeable and great value PC. Not only that but they will most likely only stock brand-name parts, so you get warranties on each individual part, plus a store warranty if you're willing to pay extra. When my laptop fried its graphics, it was out of warranty and I was faced with sending it to the manufacturer to get it fixed, so it ended up becoming a throw-away item.

I just had a quick look at what stuff is available, and if you want to include a monitor within your budget then you'd be looking at a system like this:

• 20" Asus monitor with speakers
• 3.1GHz Intel Pentium dual-core processor
• Micro-ATX H81 motherboard with integrated sound
• 4GB RAM
• AMD 7750 1GB graphics card (this is important because motherboard graphics are awful for gaming)
• 500GB hard drive
• DVD writer
• Micro-ATX case with 400W power supply
• Windows 8.1

That all costs about US$605. Not only would you still have almost $50 to spare if you wanted a better motherboard or something, but I reckon you should see much stronger performance than any laptop can offer.

Why does everyone instantly say laptops are horrible..
There not as good as desk tops but there not horrible things that will eat you.

 

[TheMechEngineer]

Just a quick tip (I had that problem with it not turning on), just replace your powerpack, you've probably had a power shortage and not even noticed and now your powerpack is useless, if you really want too see if your power pack (PSU) is the problem open your computer and look for a flashing green light on your motherboard, if not then yes the problem is your psu and it needs replaced.

I mean, wouldn't you rather spend 50-100$ than spending 500-600?

• Micro-ATX case with 400W power supply

400w imo, wow you really don't want that, one day you upgrade your GFX Card then turn your computer on and bam power surge your whole computer is fried. Please don't go for 400w's esspecially with a gaming pc (unless your a IT tech who knows exactly how much power your computer needs.)

It was too much bother to fix the laptop, I just invested in a new gaming computer because the laptop was getting too slow for the games I wanted to play on it.
I agree that 400W isn't enough and realistically you'd go for something more like 600W or at least something that's good quality. What I suggest isn't the stuff of experts, I was just giving some examples of minimum specs. Not stuff worth sweating over.

Why does everything automaticly say laptops are bad.
Why does everyone instantly say laptops are horrible..
There not as good as desk tops but there not horrible things that will eat you.

A laptop will last a year, a desktop will last 10 years. I don't just say laptops are bad because I don't like them...otherwise that'd be a completely unsubstantiated argument.

 

[psp]

It was too much bother to fix the laptop, I just invested in a new gaming computer because the laptop was getting too slow for the games I wanted to play on it.
I agree that 400W isn't enough and realistically you'd go for something more like 600W or at least something that's good quality. What I suggest isn't the stuff of experts, I was just giving some examples of minimum specs. Not stuff worth sweating over.



A laptop will last a year, a desktop will last 10 years. I don't just say laptops are bad because I don't like them...otherwise that'd be a completely unsubstantiated argument.

ok, still dont see why everyone seems to hate laptops here

 

[TheMechEngineer]

ok, still dont see why everyone seems to hate laptops here

I don't know, probably because most people are rocking quad cores with crossfire, and laptops gain a reputation of being subpar.

 

[CPP2599]

Whatever you do....DO NOT get a laptop!!! I know it seems like bad advice considering laptops can be great value for money, but I've traversed the laptop road and it's not pleasant.
You can get good laptops above $1000, but below that is nightmare zone. I had a $1000 'gaming' laptop which fried its graphics after 2 years because it got too hot even with a laptop cooler, and family members in my clan have bought numerous $500 laptops that struggle playing Youtube videos or browse the internet without freezing up or having dodgy wireless internet connections.

Regardless of the amount of money you have, research and find computer stores that build custom computers. For my PC there is a great store I go to where you can approach a staff member, tell them what kind of computer you need and what your budget is, and they can spec up a custom system and build it for you. It really takes the headache out of choosing parts and building a custom computer yourself, but you still end up with a very upgradeable and great value PC. Not only that but they will most likely only stock brand-name parts, so you get warranties on each individual part, plus a store warranty if you're willing to pay extra. When my laptop fried its graphics, it was out of warranty and I was faced with sending it to the manufacturer to get it fixed, so it ended up becoming a throw-away item.

I just had a quick look at what stuff is available, and if you want to include a monitor within your budget then you'd be looking at a system like this:

• 20" Asus monitor with speakers
• 3.1GHz Intel Pentium dual-core processor
• Micro-ATX H81 motherboard with integrated sound
• 4GB RAM
• AMD 7750 1GB graphics card (this is important because motherboard graphics are awful for gaming)
• 500GB hard drive
• DVD writer
• Micro-ATX case with 400W power supply
• Windows 8.1

That all costs about US$605. Not only would you still have almost $50 to spare if you wanted a better motherboard or something, but I reckon you should see much stronger performance than any laptop can offer.

The problem is that I need a laptop to do school works and such. But thanks for the tip, very helpfull, maybe I ll be upgrading the "family computer"

Just a quick tip (I had that problem with it not turning on), just replace your powerpack, you've probably had a power shortage and not even noticed and now your powerpack is useless, if you really want too see if your power pack (PSU) is the problem open your computer and look for a flashing green light on your motherboard, if not then yes the problem is your psu and it needs replaced.

I mean, wouldn't you rather spend 50-100$ than spending 500-600?

(

• Micro-ATX case with 400W power supply

400w imo, wow you really don't want that, one day you upgrade your GFX Card then turn your computer on and bam power surge your whole computer is fried. Please don't go for 400w's esspecially with a gaming pc (unless your a IT tech who knows exactly how much power your computer needs.)

I went to a shop and they said me that it s the screen or the thing that links it. The pc turned on, but the screen didn't. Sorry for not pointing that. My bad. But thanks for the help anyway

 

[midi_sec]

The problem is that I need a laptop to do school works and such. But thanks for the tip, very helpfull, maybe I ll be upgrading the "family computer"

All the cool kids these days are using $90 tablets at school to take their notes, print their work and such, and doing the real work at home on their desktops.

If gaming is on the menu at all, I'd consider long and hard before jumping on the laptop bandwagon.

 

[CPP2599]

All the cool kids these days are using $90 tablets at school to take their notes, print their work and such, and doing the real work at home on their desktops.

If gaming is on the menu at all, I'd consider long and hard before jumping on the laptop bandwagon.

"Cool kids" XD
I'm going to college in a couple years so the laptop was for that too. I think i'll upgrade the "family " one and fix my old laptop if it isn t to expensive. Thanks for the help, I ll see my options with the money that I have and if I have another doubt I ll post it here

 

[Vasa]

All the cool kids these days are using $90 tablets at school to take their notes, print their work and such, and doing the real work at home on their desktops.

If gaming is on the menu at all, I'd consider long and hard before jumping on the laptop bandwagon.

Im still using notebook and pen.

 

[midi_sec]

that's all I had in college too, no worries.