Making Obsidian with AE / Extra Cells

[Ace_Of_Hearts]

Noob question time!

Is there a way I can teach my AE system to make obsidian on demand using lava and water on my storage cells?

I originally thought about trying to export a bucket of lava into an igneous extruder already full of water but I don't actually know how to get my AE system to export lava a bucket at a time - I assume I need to use a fluid interface but, to be honest, those things confuse the hell out of me!

Any guidance would be appreciated!

 

[ratchet freak]

use a level emitter to stop the igneous when there is enough obsidian in the system

 

[rhn]

use a level emitter to stop the igneous when there is enough obsidian in the system

Yeah this is by far the easiest solution. Give the Igneous extruder access to water and lava all the time and then control it with its redstone tab and use a ME level emitter to always keep X number of Obsidian in the network. You are going to get really annoyed quick if all your crafts are going to have to wait for the extruder to make all the Obsidian first on demand every time.

 

[malicious_bloke]

I've had a bit of a mess about with fluid interfaces and I can't seem to get the bloody things to work either.

How I would do it if I was being very literal-minded

-Have a pattern set up with 2x empty bucket -> Obsidian. Put this in an ME interface on top of a chest.

-Have two itemducts coming off the chest, set the stacksize to 1.

-Connect the itemducts to two fluid transposers, have fluid export buses on another face of each of these transposers, one to export lava and one to export water. Set these transposers to export filled buckets into:-

-Two more transposers, set to empty the buckets. Basic import buses to extract the empty buckets and another face on each transposer set to pump fluid into the igneous extruder.

-Import bus on the extruder.

Order one obsidian, get one obsidian. You even get the buckets back!

A bit like that

 

[fleutius]

There is also the very easy way of putting a ME Storage bus on the Igneous extruder. It will then always have 64 obsidian available, and autocrafts new when you have taken it

 

[Ieldra]

AE has no fluid interface as far as I'm aware of (correct me if I'm wrong) but you can use LP fluid pipes to supply the Igneous Extruder, a level emitter to start/stop it and an import bus to get the obsidian into your ME network. LP fluid pipes are easy to use: just put fluid provider pipes on the tanks with your sources (needs no setup) and a fluid supplier pipe on the machine that uses it - which means you'll need two for an Igneous Extruder since it needs both water and lava.

 

[pderuiter]

AE has no fluid interface as far as I'm aware of (correct me if I'm wrong) but you can use LP fluid pipes to supply the Igneous Extruder, a level emitter to start/stop it and an import bus to get the obsidian into your ME network. LP fluid pipes are easy to use: just put fluid provider pipes on the tanks with your sources (needs no setup) and a fluid supplier pipe on the machine that uses it - which means you'll need two for an Igneous Extruder since it needs both water and lava.

AE in itself doesn't, but ExtraCells does

 

[GreenZombie]

The Extra Cells fluid interface doesn't seem to mimic the functionality of the normal Interface. Its more of a hybrid fluid import / export bus that offers a different fluid inventory on each face that can be sucked out of.

I was disapointed I could not figure out how to use extra cells to automate a fluid transposer - i.e. to make/export exactly enough destabilized redstone to fill a redstone energy conduit. Eventually I settled on having a fluid transposer filled with ender and one filled with redstone at all times...

 

[ratchet freak]

The Extra Cells fluid interface doesn't seem to mimic the functionality of the normal Interface. Its more of a hybrid fluid import / export bus that offers a different fluid inventory on each face that can be sucked out of.

I was disapointed I could not figure out how to use extra cells to automate a fluid transposer - i.e. to make/export exactly enough destabilized redstone to fill a redstone energy conduit. Eventually I settled on having a fluid transposer filled with ender and one filled with redstone at all times...

that is so much easier than messing about with conduits, subnets and such, often you have too much redstone/enderpearls by the time you need it automated anyway

 

[malicious_bloke]

I was disapointed I could not figure out how to use extra cells to automate a fluid transposer - i.e. to make/export exactly enough destabilized redstone to fill a redstone energy conduit. Eventually I settled on having a fluid transposer filled with ender and one filled with redstone at all times...

Yeah that was annoying, even with the add-on, the original method of just sending a set number of items to a magma crucible is still more efficient. A way of encoding fluid patterns with a set volume of a fluid would be nice, but probably too easy...I kinda like rube goldberging things

 

[Ieldra]

that is so much easier than messing about with conduits, subnets and such, often you have too much redstone/enderpearls by the time you need it automated anyway

I wonder: does crafting with the ME interface recognize chained machines? I.e. if you use an interface over a Magma Crucible over a Liquid Transposer and point the import bus at the transposer, does the ME network recognize the bucket of liquid coming out of the transposer as the result of the crafting request routed through the interface? In that case, you could simply encode "2 [or was it four?] redstone dust plus one empty redstone energy conduit gives a full redstone energy conduit".

 

[heggico]

It doesn't care, you just tell the system: if i put this in, somewhere at some time i'm gonna get this back. Else an interface and import bus wouldn't work either. Simply put: yes, you can do that

-edit- hmm after rereading.. you do have to route the proper items to the machine, so either filter them with itemducts to have the redstone go into the crucible and the conduits in the transposer, or use any other means. I usually go with an always full crucible and craft it using only the transposer

 

[malicious_bloke]

I wonder: does crafting with the ME interface recognize chained machines? I.e. if you use an interface over a Magma Crucible over a Liquid Transposer and point the import bus at the transposer, does the ME network recognize the bucket of liquid coming out of the transposer as the result of the crafting request routed through the interface? In that case, you could simply encode "2 [or was it four?] redstone dust plus one empty redstone energy conduit gives a full redstone energy conduit".

It's not the interface's job to recognise the output. You just chain the machines together, put the interface on the first one and an import bus on the second to remove the finished item.

In your example, you can put the interface on a chest, then itemduct the redstone (40 of them ) and the empty frame out and sort them into the correct machines, then have an input bus on the transposer to pick up the filled conduit. OR you can use an export bus on the crucible to constantly keep the transposer filled with destabilised redstone and just have an "empty frame -> full frame" pattern in the interface (on the transposer). Either way works but the second is a bit less controlled on resources.

Import buses don't care, they'll just suck up anything from that inventory slot regardless

 

[Ieldra]

Thanks. I could live with 8 buckets of destabilized redstone, resonant ender or something else constantly sitting there doing nothing, but I'd like to keep AE's ability to autocraft with multiple recipes per machine intact, so I'll probably use the former setup. Now I just need a way to make my chest adopt the high-tech AE look...

 

[ratchet freak]

Thanks. I could live with 8 buckets of destabilized redstone, resonant ender or something else constantly sitting there doing nothing, but I'd like to keep AE's ability to autocraft with multiple recipes per machine intact, so I'll probably use the former setup. Now I just need a way to make my chest adopt the high-tech AE look...

ME chest...

 

[malicious_bloke]

Thanks. I could live with 8 buckets of destabilized redstone, resonant ender or something else constantly sitting there doing nothing, but I'd like to keep AE's ability to autocraft with multiple recipes per machine intact, so I'll probably use the former setup. Now I just need a way to make my chest adopt the high-tech AE look...

I hid mine behind a wall so only the machines and the itemducts were showing.

 

[Ieldra]

@ratchet freak:
I don't think you can pump items out of an ME chest with an itemduct. The ME chest does not export stuff from the system.

@malicious_bloke:
Won't work, since my main ME setup is in the center of a very large the room and the interfaces are all on top of "their" machines at level 2. It may break the style somewhat, but I may have to disguise my chest with magic...

 

[ratchet freak]

@ratchet freak:
I don't think you can pump items out of an ME chest with an itemduct. The ME chest does not export stuff from the system.

you can, they act like a normal chest when they have power (through RF or connected to AE), you will put in a disk and provide power (and wrench the interface so it exports to the chest)