Little confused about LV/MV/HV
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Not an issue for me since I dislike any compact solars addonsYeah, and it's annoying too that you can't use tin cable for LV solars
Nice that my old list still flies around here as the seemingly definite source for overclockers. I feel appreciated
Here is a new version of the pic. Yellow for updates you should always do (more speed for equal or less EU cost) and also added the packet sizes and cable types needed for Jess887cp:
If you wanted to get rid of the transformer upgrades and go down to LV, you simply need 4x LV transformers per MFSU. Each transformer can accept 1 input packet and output 4x output packets at the lower voltage. This means that one MV transformer hapily transforms your MFSU down to 4x128, but to get that down to 16x32 you need 4 LV transformers.
All I can say is thank you. That is much better than my crappy photoshopped version. I'm going to be using that a whole bunch.Nice that my old list still flies around here as the seemingly definite source for overclockers. I feel appreciated
Here is a new version of the pic. Yellow for updates you should always do (more speed for equal or less EU cost) and also added the packet sizes and cable types needed for Jess887cp:
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Bad Biggle, that's not how it goes! khorozm almost got it, but only almost
EU is energy -> realworld joule
EU/t is power (energy/time) -> realworld watt
EU/p is charge -> realworld coulomb (very tenuously so...)
p/t is current (charge/time) -> realworld ampere
There is no equivalent to realworld voltage in the IC2 energy net. As far as electrical resistance goes, the comparison also can't be made because it doesn't equally affect all packet sizes. IC2 basically avoids the subject of both voltage and electrical resistance entirely by means of their EU packet size mechanic coupled with static loss per cable length, which creates a roughly adequate representation of "transform up to have less loss", but doesn't have anything to do with how that actually works in physics.
The advantage is that you don't need to use math... the disadvantage is that you can't use math.
the idea of IC2 electricity is using packet size (EU/p) to represent voltage (energy per charge, or power per current)
where EU is clearly the unit of energy, so EU/p suits being the unit of voltage
and you can see one packet as one electron.
IC2 electricity works completely different with real life electricity. But since packet size is to simulate real life voltage, you can't say there is no voltage in IC2 electricity.
If you go by that logic, then you can't make other realworld comparisons either. You can't take something that isn't "charge over time", and call it "current", or measure it in ampere. These things have fixed definitions in the SI. In the IC2 energy net, what they dub "voltage" is just as much a made-up term as "EU/t" is; it just so happens that the devs chose to name it the same as a realworld SI unit - somewhat of an unfortunate decision, considering EU packet mechanics or the resulting behavior of the e-net do not work anything like electric potential differences (which are measured in volts) do.
If you do realworld comparisons, be consistent. Don't mix and match with ingame terms.
And that just happens to be one of several accepted base units to measure charge in
If you do realworld comparisons, be consistent. Don't mix and match with ingame terms.
And that just happens to be one of several accepted base units to measure charge in
If you go by that logic, then you can't make other realworld comparisons either. You can't take something that isn't "charge over time", and call it "current", or measure it in ampere. These things have fixed definitions in the SI. In the IC2 energy net, what they dub "voltage" is just as much a made-up term as "EU/t" is; it just so happens that the devs chose to name it the same as a realworld SI unit - somewhat of an unfortunate decision, considering EU packet mechanics or the resulting behavior of the e-net do not work anything like electric potential differences (which are measured in volts) do.
If you do realworld comparisons, be consistent. Don't mix and match with ingame terms.
And that just happens to be one of several accepted base units to measure charge in
you are right, real world electricity starts with charge and electric force. it is impossible (and useless) to really compare them. but i don't actually find it unfortunate to name it voltage. but if you really need to find an analogy, treating a packet as a charge would make more sense.
Put your name on that, I had no idea who made it.Nice that my old list still flies around here as the seemingly definite source for overclockers. I feel appreciated
Here is a new version of the pic. Yellow for updates you should always do (more speed for equal or less EU cost) and also added the packet sizes and cable types needed for Jess887cp:
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My original post was correct when comparing EU to RP Watts; volts are packets, amps is quantity of packets.
Things only get complicated with banana power.
I like it too :3That is an awesome analogy, with the dwarves
Oh, they do? Nice. I just can't remember any voltage drops on UE wires. Maybe that's just my memory or multimeter issues
Well there are some oddities. Transformers, for example. Their electricity seems to be DC, so that should be some sort of DC-to-DC converter... And also transformers from 1.4.7 version were adding and subtracting voltage instead of multiplying it.