Is the Rock Crusher an upgraded version of the Pulverizer?

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trunksbomb

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Pulverizer is from Thermal Expansion, Rock Crusher is GregTech Railcraft (corrected, thanks).

If you look at the recipes for the Rock Crusher in NEI, it will show you what it outputs. There is a chance for extra items occasionally. Hover over the items to see the percentage chance of getting them.
 

OmegaPython

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It isn't really an 'upgraded' version of the Pulveriser, it is just RailCraft's equilvalent, much like the Macerator from IC2. I must admit though, I have never really played with it, so I don't know if there would be an advantage to using it.

EDIT: Isn't the Rock Crusher RailCraft? Are you thinking of the Rock Cutter?
 

Larroke

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the Rock Crusher is added by Railcraft...

I don't know about secondary outputs, the wiki is lite on information, but I do beleive it doubles output like the pulverizer/macerator at the least.

Requires 15MJ while in operation.
 

Dragonchampion

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Pulverizer is from Thermal Expansion, Rock Crusher is GregTech.

If you look at the recipes for the Rock Crusher in NEI, it will show you what it outputs. There is a chance for extra items occasionally. Hover over the items to see the percentage chance of getting them.
I didn't know NEI did that. Thanks!

It isn't really an 'upgraded' version of the Pulveriser, it is just RailCraft's equilvalent, much like the Macerator from IC2. I must admit though, I have never really played with it, so I don't know if there would be an advantage to using it.
I'll tell my discoveries here. if it does have an advantage, then everyone should know. The current one, in my opinion, is Macerator > Pulverizer > Rock Crusher? We'll see.


EDIT: While the Rock Crusher does give 2 dusts from an ore, it does NOT give any secondary output. This means the Pulverizer is king.
 

Zelfana

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Rock Crusher is hideously expensive taking 12 diamonds but doesn't output more than either Pulverizer or Macerator. It also takes 16MJ/t of power to run at maximum speed. You can get diamonds from crushing gravel but you'd need to run it for at least a week 24/7 to profit if you have enough gravel for it which you won't have in which case you need another Rock Crusher to make that from cobblestone which would double the required time for profit. All in all it's an inferior way to get infinite diamonds.
 

netmc

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It is the only way I know of though to generate infinite gravel and flint. It's great for those massive road projects, or pairing with a chicken and wood farm for arrows. This isn't normally in short supply if you have done a lot of mining or have a quarry. This is one of those things you connect up when you have a surplus of energy with nothing do use it for. In SSP, I've never generated enough surplus diamonds or gold to make up for the cost yet, although if I was on a server and had a steady fuel source, I would run this thing 24/7. Oh, and make sure to place it well away from your main structure as this thing is loud. There are a few recipes that are unique to the rock crusher (or started that way). For example, you can essentially uncraft brick blocks back into single bricks with a minimum of 2, a decent chance of 3, and a small chance of getting all 4 back. You can also so this with the extra blast furnace bricks and coke oven bricks. The macerator recipes were added as a convenience. You can send all your ores from a quarry, and they would get doubled just as a macerator would, but run off of MJ instead of EU.
 

Vovk

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I would also suggest it if you were going for a heavy dingy dieselpunk or similar look for your base.

Why feed your ores in through a tiny efficient pulverizer when you can chuck them into a 2x2x3 15MJ/t power hogging noisy rock crusher? :D

also crushed obsidian - hard like obsidian but falls like gravel, Can make some pretty awesome traps with it.

Overall - I would choose the rock crusher if I were going for a certain aesthetic. I would not choose it as my first (or even second or third) ore processing machine.


One more thing to note - the rock crusher is quite fast and has a 9x9 internal buffer for both its input and its output, so automation is nice.
 

trunksbomb

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It is the only way I know of though to generate infinite gravel and flint. It's great for those massive road projects, or pairing with a chicken and wood farm for arrows. This isn't normally in short supply if you have done a lot of mining or have a quarry. This is one of those things you connect up when you have a surplus of energy with nothing do use it for. In SSP, I've never generated enough surplus diamonds or gold to make up for the cost yet, although if I was on a server and had a steady fuel source, I would run this thing 24/7. Oh, and make sure to place it well away from your main structure as this thing is loud. There are a few recipes that are unique to the rock crusher (or started that way). For example, you can essentially uncraft brick blocks back into single bricks with a minimum of 2, a decent chance of 3, and a small chance of getting all 4 back. You can also so this with the extra blast furnace bricks and coke oven bricks. The macerator recipes were added as a convenience. You can send all your ores from a quarry, and they would get doubled just as a macerator would, but run off of MJ instead of EU.

Igneous Extruder and a Pulverizer to make gravel, or a Grinder from Factorization. Macerate gravel for flint.
 

Vovk

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Igneous Extruder and a Pulverizer to make gravel, or a Grinder from Factorization. Macerate gravel for flint.

problem with that is that there's a 40% chance of gravel in pulverizer and the pulverizer is slower than the crusher

the crusher does it 100% of the time and at a faster rate.
 

RavynousHunter

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I dunno, I like my machines making some kinda noise when they're working, tis an atmospheric thing, ya know? While the rock crusher -is- very expensive, once you get the diamonds built up (which isn't much of a problem, once you get a Fortune pick), it is useful, if for no other reason than the fact it has the largest internal buffer of any ore-processing machine I've ever come across, even if it does lack some of the secondary outputs one can get from a pulverizer.
 

trunksbomb

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problem with that is that there's a 40% chance of gravel in pulverizer and the pulverizer is slower than the crusher

the crusher does it 100% of the time and at a faster rate.

It's a trade off. Do you want gravel 100% of the time at a larger initial cost, higher energy cost, and a larger footprint? Or do you want it cheaper and slower? For what I need, the igneous extruder and pulverizer combo works fine.
 

Vovk

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It's a trade off. Do you want gravel 100% of the time at a larger initial cost, higher energy cost, and a larger footprint? Or do you want it cheaper and slower? For what I need, the igneous extruder and pulverizer combo works fine.
I don't disagree.

One of the first machines i set up in my world is a cobble and sand gen, I just put the secondary output of the pulverizer to a chest on top and that thing supplies me with all the gravel I need.

However, once the sand barrel fills my gravel production goes to 0, so if I wanted a LOT of gravel (say for a road) then I would probably choose a rock crusher. For reference, my sand barrel is full and my gravel chest has maybe 10 to 15 stacks in it.
 

DoctorOr

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Industrial Grinder > Pulverizer > Rock Crusher > Macerator.

It's a pretty clear differentiation. Fortune III is better than grinder for some, worse for others. Generally better than pulverizer though.
 

DoctorOr

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You're all forgetting the grinder! It's great for diamonds(2,25 per ore) and coal(3,5 per ore).

I didn't forget it, I use it for tin and coal, but the industrial grinder is better for diamonds since I actually use the dust as dust.
 

Poppycocks

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I just wish gregtech would let me change the diamond drill back to the old recipe.
He does, change your config.

But man, it ain't so bad. All you need is to electrolyze 8 bauxite and find 5 steel in dungeon chests.

Oh and smelt the titanium in the bloody blast furnace, that's a bit of a bummer. But still, the highest cost of a blast furnace is the steel for reinforced casings. Loot chests can help a LOT in that regard.