Is it possible to find or discover the UU Matter dimlet?

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McJty

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You can find it. However, rarity 6 dimlets *are* very hard to find. They really are rare
 

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Okay because the ammount of uu matter required to make it is ridiculous so I think I'd rather just go searching lol
 

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Cursed Earth farm in the End? You might want to start both approaches. Worst case scenario, you use the UU-matter for something else. Bonus, you'll have more Ender Pearls than you know what to do with.
 

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The dimlet scrambler combines three dimlets and poops out another dimlet with a higher chance of getting rarer dimlets.
 

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The dimlet scrambler combines three dimlets and poops out another dimlet with a higher chance of getting rarer dimlets.

True, but odds are still not in your favor. It took a long time to get the Efficiency Dimlets I wanted, even with a 10x10 Cursed Earth farm in the end running 24/7 on our server. Granted, I did get the Dragons Dimlet along the way, but random doesn't help when the aim is specific.

As I said, I would plan on making the UU-matter yourself. If the Dimlet drops before you're done, you will still have all your UU-matter. After all, if oceans are needed, you'll have a use for every drop you make before that, right?
 

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True, but odds are still not in your favor. It took a long time to get the Efficiency Dimlets I wanted, even with a 10x10 Cursed Earth farm in the end running 24/7 on our server. Granted, I did get the Dragons Dimlet along the way, but random doesn't help when the aim is specific.

As I said, I would plan on making the UU-matter yourself. If the Dimlet drops before you're done, you will still have all your UU-matter. After all, if oceans are needed, you'll have a use for every drop you make before that, right?
What is this thing about cursed earth in the end? I have a farm in the over world but I rarely get unknown dimlets from it. Wouldn't it be faster to go searching in the worlds you create???
 

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What is this thing about cursed earth in the end? I have a farm in the over world but I rarely get unknown dimlets from it. Wouldn't it be faster to go searching in the worlds you create???

Endermen have a chance to drop dimlets.
So curse earth in The End, or a powered spawner in the overworld, will yield many dimelts.
 

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Endermen have a chance to drop dimlets.
So curse earth in The End, or a powered spawner in the overworld, will yield many dimelts.
So you can discover the uu matter dimlet from an unknown dimlet? What are the % chances on that? lol
 

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What is this thing about cursed earth in the end? I have a farm in the over world but I rarely get unknown dimlets from it. Wouldn't it be faster to go searching in the worlds you create???

To expand on this a touch further, Cursed Earth forces mobs that would normally spawn in the given conditions to spawn. Mobs who's requirements are not met (for instance, Blizz require certain conditions, thus won't spawn in biomes that do not meet them). This means Cursed Earth in the Nether will spawn only mobs who would spawn in the Nether (excellent way to farm gold nuggets and Wither skulls). Since the only mob capable of spawning in the End (unless mods add more) is Enderman, a Cursed Earth farm in the End will only spawn Enderman, and it will spawn one of them at a rate similar to that which an Overworld farm would spawn some random mob. This in turn means Dimlets and Ender Pearls in mass quantities.

I don't have the actual odds of a Tier 6 Dimlet being discovered from an Unknown Dimlet, but they are (rightfully) slim. On the other hand, at the rate you will be collecting them in this manner, you may consider this the brute force approach. Consider too that you can recycle your duplicates (of which you will have many), and the odds (again, rightfully slim) increase somewhat.

Edit: Note this method can be used to farm TC Pech, who only spawn in magical biomes. Some Cursed Earth and proper light levels will have a chance to spawn them. To my knowledge, any mob is fair game, assuming all the spawning conditions are met.
 

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I feel like I should instruct my nether mob grinder to quit trashing everything-except-skulls, I forgot dimlets were a thing.
 

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I feel like I should instruct my nether mob grinder to quit trashing everything-except-skulls, I forgot dimlets were a thing.

Do Enderman spawn in the Nether? I don't remember seeing any.
 

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Uh, I just realized chris becke mentioned specifically endermen (only) drop dimlets. For some reason I misunderstood and thought any mob could drop dimlets.

Nether-mob-grinder no longer slated for updates :)
 

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Uh, I just realized chris becke mentioned specifically endermen (only) drop dimlets. For some reason I misunderstood and thought any mob could drop dimlets.

Nether-mob-grinder no longer slated for updates :)

That is why I suggested a small farm in the End. Since all that can soawn there are Enderman, it punps them out rapidly, particularly if you build it off the main island far enough that your farm is the only valid spawn around.
 

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That is why I suggested a small farm in the End. Since all that can soawn there are Enderman, it punps them out rapidly, particularly if you build it off the main island far enough that your farm is the only valid spawn around.
That makes a lot of sense, I may try that. Angel block in the middle of nowhere should do the trick. I forget what the default Y level of the End island is, I could probably just go straight up too.
 
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While I understand the desire for a UU Dimlet, I have a feeling that by the time you get such a Dimlet, you will already have made so much UU Matter by normal processing along the way that you really won't care very much. Such a dimlet wouldn't be all that worthwhile in early- or mid-game (where you could really use the UU Matter) because of the power cost (if I understand how RFTools works).

This is a good thread to interject my own question regarding UU Matter - what special items do you make with it? For me, I make Iridium Plates, Iridium Ore, Plutonium and Glowstone. That's it. I have a lot of UU Matter production going in my Infinity Evolved world, to the point where I really don't need to be making those 4 items all the time. I'd like to branch out, but UU Matter cannot make a lot of things, unfortunately. What is a good item that it CAN replicate, that is very useful?
 

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I dont even know how the ic2 uu matter mechanic works. Im pretty sure it used to be "items" that you shaped in a recipe to get items.

GT uses scanners and replicators so that you can consume UU liquid to produce scanned dusts. Does the IC2 thing work similarly now?
 

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I dont even know how the ic2 uu matter mechanic works. Im pretty sure it used to be "items" that you shaped in a recipe to get items.

GT uses scanners and replicators so that you can consume UU liquid to produce scanned dusts. Does the IC2 thing work similarly now?

It's exactly the same mechanics, it's only the recipes for all the stuff that got a bit more difficult (which is kind of ironic to say when comparing to a GT pack hahahaha).

You make IC2 Crystal Disks and put them into an IC2 Scanner, then scan the item and save the resulting data to the disk. Then take the Crystal Disk and put that into a IC2 Pattern Storage which is touching an IC2 Replicator. Send UU Matter from your row of Mass Fabs to the Replicator. Select which item you wish to Replicate at the top (it will cycle thru all Patterns contained in the adjacent Pattern Storage block) and click the "repeat run" button. It will reproduce the item selected until it runs out of UU Matter (or power lol).
The Pattern Storage can hold numerous different items but each Crystal Disk can only contain one. After each disk is read into the Pattern Storage, I remove the Crystal Disk and put it away somewhere safe. The patterns will all remain in the Pattern Storage until you break the block. You do NOT have to power the Pattern Storage device. But the Replicator, Scanner, and Mass Fabs are all 2048 EU/t machines (in theory - in actual practice you can give the Mass Fabs almost infinite power and they will run super fast).
 
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It's exactly the same mechanics, it's only the recipes for all the stuff that got a bit more difficult (which is kind of ironic to say when comparing to a GT pack hahahaha).

You make IC2 Crystal Disks and put them into an IC2 Scanner, then scan the item and save the resulting data to the disk. Then take the Crystal Disk and put that into a IC2 Pattern Storage which is touching an IC2 Replicator. Send UU Matter from your row of Mass Fabs to the Replicator. Select which item you wish to Replicate and click the "repeat run" button. It will reproduce the item selected until it runs out of UU Matter.
The Pattern Storage can hold numerous different items but each Crystal Disk can only contain one. After each disk is read into the Pattern Storage, I remove the Crystal Disk and put it away somewhere safe. The patterns will all remain in the Pattern Storage until you break the block. You do NOT have to power the Pattern Storage device. But the Replicator, Scanner, and Mass Fabs are all 2048 EU/t machines (in theory - in actual practice you can give the Mass Fabs almost infinite power and they will run super fast).
Neat. Is there a wiki/site/list/reference/anything where I can see valid replications? For instance I know people are using it to make iridium a lot (sensible) but could I use it for, say, pokefennium or primal mana or other stuff that I find particularly onerous to make?
 

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Neat. Is there a wiki/site/list/reference/anything where I can see valid replications? For instance I know people are using it to make iridium a lot (sensible) but could I use it for, say, pokefennium or primal mana or other stuff that I find particularly onerous to make?

For the most part, only IC2 items can be Replicated via IC2's UU Matter process. However, it appears vanilla Minecraft items are also valid, since I use my UU Matter to make Glowstone Dust. But in general, if it's not IC2 nor vanilla... I don't think it will work - the surest way to find out is simply put a blank Crystal Disk into an IC2 Scanner, insert the item you wish to replicate, and see if the scanning process will even begin. If not... sorry, out of luck.

I just asked the same question above - what are some good items to make with UU Matter (besides the obvious ones like Iridium and Plutonium)? I have not found such a list, but it would indeed be handy to have.

P.S. In case you don't know, each scanned item has a different cost (in UU Matter, to make one item). Iridium Plate is quite expensive since it contains 4 Iridium Ores plus other expensive thing. But Glowstone Dust is very inexpensive and thus you can make a lot of it pretty quickly. The lower the UU cost, the faster it replicates.

Two other things you can make are Advanced Alloy (those IC2 plate things) and probably Diamonds as well (maybe they'd be the IC2 Industrial Diamond version, I don't really know). Those could be useful. For myself, I just scanned an Iridium Plate and avoided the entire sub-assembly process altogether. Iridium Ores are only needed for the Big Reactor Turbine Shafts and Blades, basically. Just about every other recipe in the modpack that calls for Iridium is actually calling for the Iridium Plates.
 
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