Is it better to macerate or use fortune III?
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If you don't have GregTech, it's better to fortune 3 Gems, but better to pulverize nikolite and redstone
If you do have GregTech, almost everything is better to use an industrial grinder. Except for Coal. Fortune 3 is best for coal.
Macerator is never the best option.
If you do have GregTech, almost everything is better to use an industrial grinder. Except for Coal. Fortune 3 is best for coal.
Macerator is never the best option.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
Given fortune III is reliant on chance, unless you're prepared to spend a lot of time grinding EXP and then even more EXP repairing that one lucky pick for a slightly better ore bonus?
You long term strategy should aim for automated manufacturing of ores instead of non-renewable mining. (Gregtech+Extra bees for the win!!)- or automated mining machines with frames/turtles- which pull up more than your efforts with fortuneIII/silktouch.
GT rockcutter + Macerator is probable the more repeatable strategy.
If you get lucky early on- fortune III will mean a lot less time underground you spend ages underground being awesome, but I wouldn't rely on it as a solid strategy for every world/server you play.
You long term strategy should aim for automated manufacturing of ores instead of non-renewable mining. (Gregtech+Extra bees for the win!!)- or automated mining machines with frames/turtles- which pull up more than your efforts with fortuneIII/silktouch.
If you have a silk touch'd tool, stockpile your ores and look at your NEI recipes for the most efficient method.
(Fortune III averages about 220-250% ore yield I think)
I'd always use the grinder on Diamond or Ruby. Other gems are more of a question. Because of Coal->Diamond, and the use of Diamond dust in some recipes - notably glass fiber cable and iridium plate, you should never convert diamond dust to whole diamonds. Rubies, at some points in the tech tree, are more useful as dusts than whole due to what they centrifuge into. Unless you do a lot less mining than I did, you should never run out of whole rubies. Plus grinding ruby ore gives red garnet dust as a bonus.
Sapphire ores are still clear wins to be used in an industrial grinder. You get one whole gem, plus 1.5 in dust. 4 dusts can be turned into 3 gems. So 8 ores silktouched and ground are 17 gems. 8 ores fortune 3'd are somewhere between 16 and 20. But the grinder also gives an extra 2x tiny dust in green sapphire, which itself can be electrolyzed to normal sapphire. So total return on 8 ores is 20 gems. (The 17 from above, plus 16x Tiny Green Sapphire Dust == 4x Dust == 3x Gem) consistently, with none of the randomness of Fortune III
Green Sapphire Ore is similar because it gives 1 gem + 1.5 dust + 0.5 blue sapphire dust, again equating to 20 gems for 8 ores.
The only serious argument to be had is with Emerald. The bonus dust from the grinder is Olivine, which serves no current purpose.
Note that all of this comment is about the Industrial Grinder, only available if GregTech is available, and not what the original question was asking.
You should never convert diamond dust into whole diamonds if you have enough diamonds without. on my server we really burn through diamonds so fast, while always using dust (that I just make manually as required) every now and then to tweak the electricity systems in place or make more iridium plates (max 10/day atm on current server really). Everyone has various enchanted diamond tools and such, lots of diamonds go into other things in other mods, if 60% of our diamond was stuck in dust form it would suck to have to convert a lot of it back to meet the diamond demand instead of just fortuning it (a lot of our diamonds just come from manual despite the efforts of quarries)
At recent version, monazite ore also produce thorium if it's processed in the ind. grinder.
Since I don't use quarry for now(will be later since I give up manual mining bauxite), I save up all my ores in diamond chests, and wait until I need them and then process them accordingly (tripling with ind. grinder+chemical or fortune 3 for sapphires or the factorization grinder).
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
If you're stuck for diamonds, start macerating/pulverising coal- you can easily double/triple your diamond output from quarries/spelunking ect...