IC2 Advanced Machines

[ILoveGregTech]

DireWolf20. We've got her stored now, though.

Oh OK
Looks like it's on to the argument [DOUBLEPOST=1363640100][/DOUBLEPOST]

No, it is not. It may be cheaper in regards to power, but it is not better in regards to speed. It runs at about a 4x overclocked electro furnace level. An eight, or twelve overclocked electrofurnace will do many stacks before the induction furnace even gets halfway through its stack.

The induction furnace is a fairly crappy investment if speed is a priority.

Wait for it to heat up to 100% then I think it's worth it, because making Overclockers imo are a pain... I would rather just make an advanced machine block and put my pre existing machine above it w/ 7 copper.... IMO

 

[Guswut]

Wait for it to heat up to 100% then I think it's worth it, because making Overclockers imo are a pain... I would rather just make an advanced machine block and put my pre existing machine above it w/ 7 copper.... IMO

I am comparing it to 100% warmed up. It is no where near as effective. I've done enough tests that I'm surprised others haven't, as well.

 

[ILoveGregTech]

I am comparing it to 100% warmed up. It is no where near as effective. I've done enough tests that I'm surprised others haven't, as well.

Hmmmm, I've never really looked into it...
I kind of follow what other people say about Overclockers and how it EXPONENTIALLY increases the power drainage (I don't know the math) but that's why I just prefer not to use them...
Maybe I SHOULD examine the math...

 

[Guswut]

Maybe I SHOULD examine the math...

Yeah, first look at how much faster they can be (12 overclockers, two to four energy storage upgrades, a dedicated MFSU -> MV transformer -> 4 LV transformers ->).

The power cost may be higher, but by the time you can afford the induction furnace, you should be producing more energy than you need.

 

[MagusUnion]

It may be cheaper in regards to power, but it is not better in regards to speed.

That power consumption difference is enough to sway players toward the device, as well as the ability to 'dual smelt, dual output', which is a feature that isn't included into many other mods atm..

(no, this isn't the same as TE's Induction Furnace. That's a 2 input, 1 output, with a bonus chance for a second item)

Plus, OMG MATH!...

 

[ILoveGregTech]

Yeah, first look at how much faster they can be (12 overclockers, two to four energy storage upgrades, a dedicated MFSU -> MV transformer -> 4 LV transformers ->).

The power cost may be higher, but by the time you can afford the induction furnace, you should be producing more energy than you need.

Unless you're playing GT [DOUBLEPOST=1363641699][/DOUBLEPOST]

That power consumption difference is enough to sway players toward the device, as well as the ability to 'dual smelt, dual output', which is a feature that isn't included into other mods atm..

(no, this isn't the same as TE's Induction Furnace. That's a 2 input, 1 output, with a bonus chance for a second item)

Plus, OMG MATH!...

x__x
OMG

 

[Guswut]

That power consumption difference is enough to sway players toward the device, as well as the ability to 'dual smelt, dual output', which is a feature that isn't included into many other mods atm..

(no, this isn't the same as TE's Induction Furnace. That's a 2 input, 1 output, with a bonus chance for a second item)

Plus, OMG MATH!...

I can only assume that the majority of people do the same thing I did which was assume it was better and not try out the other path. The power usage is such a non-issue when you have so many sources of infinite power, that I really am not sure how anyone could think otherwise.

Well, good luck with your much much slower smelts!

Unless you're playing GT

Especially if you are playing with GregTech!

 

[ILoveGregTech]

I can only assume that the majority of people do the same thing I did which was assume it was better and not try out the other path. The power usage is such a non-issue when you have so many sources of infinite power, that I really am not sure how anyone could think otherwise.

Well, good luck with your much much slower smelts!




Especially if you are playing with GregTech!

I don't get it? With GT you have LESS power?

 

[Guswut]

I don't get it? With GT you have LESS power?

When playing GregTech, you have more reasons to get a decent set of infinite energy production in place, and have all that many more reasons to set up extremely quick smelting.

It isn't very hard to set up a Steve's Cart tree farm feeding generators, and as you aren't running your furnaces at all times, the power output is almost always a drop in the bucket.

For automated systems, though, the electro furnace with as few overclockers as possible is a better choice, as you may end up running it for a while. It takes a good bit of balancing to get that down perfectly, and you won't have a constant EU drain to deal with as such.

 

[ILoveGregTech]

When playing GregTech, you have more reasons to get a decent set of infinite energy production in place, and have all that many more reasons to set up extremely quick smelting.

It isn't very hard to set up a Steve's Cart tree farm feeding generators, and as you aren't running your furnaces at all times, the power output is almost always a drop in the bucket.

For automated systems, though, the electro furnace with as few overclockers as possible is a better choice, as you may end up running it for a while. It takes a good bit of balancing to get that down perfectly, and you won't have a constant EU drain to deal with as such.

Oh! Ok, now I get what you meant... Yea, but see I always go solar
I really need to broaden my FTB horizons
Please help me out with this thread if you would like kind sir
http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/help-eu.15610/

 

[Guswut]

Oh! Ok, now I get what you meant... Yea, but see I always go solar
I really need to broaden my horizons

Are you still considering solar considering the advanced solar recipe changes? Going to go with compact solar?

I'd say set up a nether lava pump using a GregTech advanced pump, which is claimed to pump fluids sans lag. That should be enough power to keep a few MFSUs powered at all times.

 

[ILoveGregTech]

Are you still considering solar considering the advanced solar recipe changes? Going to go with compact solar?

I'd say set up a nether lava pump using a GregTech advanced pump, which is claimed to pump fluids sans lag. That should be enough power to keep a few MFSUs powered at all times.

Yes I am still considering solars and it's changes... I think I'm going to tell my friend to change the config
I mean really, a diamond, 2 UUM, and an Iridium Nugget for something that outputs 8EU/t???!!!
I did the math (correctly, I think) and if you had the basic IC2 solar panel along with the matter fabricator (assuming you don't find Iridium for the solar you need 9 UUM) it took 85+/- DAYS (REAL LIFE) to make enough UUM for ONE solar! That's ASININE!
But thank you I have always watned to try the lava from Nether... Would you suggest thermal gens?

 

[Guswut]

But thank you I have always watned to try the lava from Nether... Would you suggest thermal gens?

Yeah, thermal generators are a better way to go over geothermal generators, and are not all that much more expensive. A few of those should be enough to keep your power fully stocked quicker than you'll end up using it. If you start to find you drain your way through a MFSU or two, then add a few more thermal generators.

The best thing about it, though, is that you can get to it from fairly early on in the game. You don't have to even start ducking around with any sort of iridium craziness, and you can easily outstrip an ultimate solar panel.

Steve's Cart tree farms can be self-sustaining, so you could use a large array of them to produce a great deal of power without any upkeep.

 

[ILoveGregTech]

Yeah, thermal generators are a better way to go over geothermal generators, and are not all that much more expensive. A few of those should be enough to keep your power fully stocked quicker than you'll end up using it. If you start to find you drain your way through a MFSU or two, then add a few more thermal generators.

The best thing about it, though, is that you can get to it from fairly early on in the game. You don't have to even start ducking around with any sort of iridium craziness, and you can easily outstrip an ultimate solar panel.

Steve's Cart tree farms can be self-sustaining, so you could use a large array of them to produce a great deal of power without any upkeep.

Thanks so much! I'm gonna try this once he gets his server up and running...LOL he'll have no idea what hit him...I'll be pumping out stacks on stacks of UUM and he'll still be trying to get a stack of two

 

[Guswut]

Thanks so much! I'm gonna try this once he gets his server up and running...LOL he'll have no idea what hit him...I'll be pumping out stacks on stacks of UUM and he'll still be trying to get a stack of two

Don't forget the igneous extruder for making scrap, and you'll be golden!

 

[Jyzarc]

Right now i'm playing direwolf20 + gregtech. Im thinking of adding advanced machines but they seem a little buggy. Maybe its just me

 

[ILoveGregTech]

Right now i'm playing direwolf20 + gregtech. Im thinking of adding advanced machines but they seem a little buggy. Maybe its just me

Depends on which version

 

[Jyzarc]

Depends on which version

The one in the ultimate pack

 

[ILoveGregTech]

The one in the ultimate pack

No there are two types of advanced machines... The most popular and the one I like the most is by AtomicStryker...

 

[Jyzarc]

No there are two types of advanced machines... The most popular and the one I like the most is by AtomicStryker...

I believe its atomic stryker's. its whatever is in the ultimate pack though. they seemed to freeze up randomly even when powered with both EU and a redstone signal