I HATE GREGTECH CONFIGS!!!
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The feels bro...
GregTech's Configs certainly are monsters, but.... judging by Gregorius'es general attitude the fact that there is a config at all amazes me.
He could have said "GTFO Carebear scrub, this is GregTech. like it or lump it" and did without the headache of making such a robust and customizable config.
I still hate the mod though.
GregTech's Configs certainly are monsters, but.... judging by Gregorius'es general attitude the fact that there is a config at all amazes me.
He could have said "GTFO Carebear scrub, this is GregTech. like it or lump it" and did without the headache of making such a robust and customizable config.
I still hate the mod though.
At least you respect it
Yeah... My only beef with it is that it's hard to avoid when added to popular mod packs. The "don't like it don't use it" epitaph while a legitimate piece of advice is kind of difficult to follow.
I've been on servers that don't want to use GregTech but are too lazy/ dumb to mess with the config and too afraid of disabling it outright.
There are a lot of people out there running servers that shouldn't be but I kind of can't blame them for not wanting to touch Gregtech's config.
For instance to return storage blocks back to their vanilla method require you to find two options; One for the ability to craft ingots in to blocks and another to be able to craft the blocks back in to ingots.
This has to be enabled/ disabled for EVERY type of resource that has a block form.
Also some people disable the ability to compress and smelt the blocks thinking that enables the crafting, which evidently could be OP's problem.
It's good that the config's there but it is a pain in the ass to configure.
I wonder if anyone is working on a third party UI that generates GregTech configs. Haveing a program that with a simple few clicks will allow me to make a config that enables certain things.
Also on a related note; Is there any way to get vanilla IC2 tool recipes back? From what I've found there is no method short of outright disabling GregTech.
Servers that are too lazy/dumb to configure their stuff right usually turn out to be low quality experiences.
Something about steel in tools I think... Although dont quote me I'm not usually messing with the config
Something about steel in tools I think... Although dont quote me I'm not usually messing with the config
I thought that would have been it too, but it's not. There's an option to have steel substituted for refined iron but not to bring back the recipe with the bronze wrench.
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While I can't argue that those statements aren't factual, one wonders why someone who knows better would actually stay on such a server. Alternatively, I've seen several supposed server admins claim their members are apparently not capable of installing a config from dropbox. My unspoken question is "why do you want them on your server? You owe them money or something?"
This is why I play almost exclusively single player. I decide how I spend my session of play.
Playing on multiplayer is fun, but there are far, far too many limitations for me to enjoy myself. Between mod configurations and the builds of mine that are server resource-intensive, it's simply not feasible.
Playing on multiplayer is fun, but there are far, far too many limitations for me to enjoy myself. Between mod configurations and the builds of mine that are server resource-intensive, it's simply not feasible.
in that same file, recipesadvancedconfig in the gregtech folder: there is the config block storageblockcompressing
if you turn a recipe off, it's turned off.
the next block below that is storageblockcrafting. there you need to look for the same name, and turn it on.
turning off the compressing-recipe does NOT automatically mean that the system turns on the craftingrecipe. you need to do that on your own.
and then there are the blocks storageblockdecrafting, storageblockmacerating and storageblocksmelting... I'd say, the names of those configs are pretty clear.
so basically, you have 5 settings for storageblocks, so you can customize them on demand.
That's a rather broad sweeping statement isn't it?
The issue is not that server owners are too 'dumb', the problem is the server USERS where every single one of them has to copy all the config settings in their local config and the server admin has to play first-line-support for. And yes, there are a LOT of users who can't or are afraid to edit the rather technical configs. Stating that these people are dumb is incredibly arrogant. An arrogance unfortunately a lot of developers have when it comes to end-users.[DOUBLEPOST=1368001921][/DOUBLEPOST]
Same here. For a lot of people messing about with configs is simply scary. And it's typical that a lot of people can't understand that not everyone is as tech-savvy as they are. And this is why the launcher has a huge gap; it should distribute config packs instead of private modpacks.
Perhaps I wasn't entirely clear. I was not suggesting that every user should be expected to 'mess about with configs'. I submit, however, that if you are running a modded minecraft server, you should have at least a cursory knowledge of it, or you have failed in your tacit agreement with your server members. By the same token, I don't believe it's unreasonable as a server owner/admin to expect the members to be able to download and drag and drop a small file/folder into their 'mods' folder. That's not so much 'tech-savvy' as barely 'tech literate.'
It's still a hassle for admins who tend to be real people with real lives who much rather play the game than have to mess about with configs and make sure people don't mess up theirs. It's exactly our reason why our admin didn't want to get into the mess again because it's simply dull timeconsuming work that comes on top of the work you already have to do to administer the server.
So I 100% that our admin got fed up with it. And he's a server admin IRL so when it comes to his spare time he doesn't want to have to do more than what's 100% needed for the server.
In our case, because no one bothered too much with GT we decided to move back to DW20. This has the added benefit that it has more frequent updates than ultimate has.
Honest FTB itself should provide a second real feature in letting the community, together, in wiki/github fashion develop a sets of packs for different modepacks ranging from easymode to wtftheairisonfire configs for admins to use in addition to the defaults.
Imagine 100s of people debugging damn ID conflicts into a painful past we will tell out grandkids about for a pack and committing them to a pack config repo, or at least suppling information to an official FTB modpack config thread for review. The frontend would be very compatible and well tested configs that could be separate from the packs themselves preserving the pack authors original ideals.
Imagine 100s of people debugging damn ID conflicts into a painful past we will tell out grandkids about for a pack and committing them to a pack config repo, or at least suppling information to an official FTB modpack config thread for review. The frontend would be very compatible and well tested configs that could be separate from the packs themselves preserving the pack authors original ideals.
I wonder if you could get the mystcraft you burn in direct sunlight effect into the overworld. That would work for the latter....
But yeah, summery of this thread is that for once, people have stopped blaming greg to realise it's the the current config arcutecture that frustrates a lot of people.
That the configs arn't passed as part of the loader (or better yet server) is the single most drama causing thing right now. If all it took was for the server admin to do it once, or (less prefrably) the users toggle a couple things in the launcher, then greg woes would be gone.
I'm running a server myself for some closeish friends. But I have almost no time to actually admin it, and several of them it was hard enough getting them to download a 2nd laucher. (The one time I tryed to help em config their bacon guns *shudders*)
This means the default configs are the only realistic option, so it's Dire or that mod in hard mode that most peeps currently don't wanna deal with.
let alone the idea of tweaking the experiance a bit.