I don't understand bees :(
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Actually you just need to search gendustry, and there is no need for ftb since the ftb team did not make the mod
Trash them? No, hold onto them. They aren't breeding stock, they are extra genes by happenstance. Don't get attached, they'll die. I use them for the same thing. But important lines? Not a chance I'll use a ingoble bee for actual breeding.
I really don't mean to advertise here, but this seems like the perfect place to mention that I took it upon myself to create a Bee Tutorial series on YouTube, you can check it out here. Most of your questions will be answered throughout the series.
Hopefully, this will help.
Well, once again, bee breeding is a matter of experience and strategy. If you want to get started with bees, you'll just have to dive in and start identifying all the things you don't know. There are a lot of resources for your to find information, such that you really need to know what you don't know, before you can being to filter through the mass of data.
That being said, the best way to start off with bees, is an exercise in getting imperial/industrious.
(1) Acquire as many meadows/forest bees you can. In AS queens have a chance of producing extra princesses, so this isn't as imperative. Though, consider that mutations is a probability, so if you have multiple pairs of bees breeding, you have a higher chance of getting the mutation.
(2) Breed them ALL to common, with the exception of ONE pair of meadows and ONE pair of forest. The exception pairs you will want to breed so you get STACKING drones. Developing the memory/strategy to mutate multiple meadows/forest bees into common is a very important skill, which will carry through to all your bee activities. Mixing and matching drones and princess of opposite type, means a system of keeping all the extra drones and a system of organization will need to be developed. Once again, very important skill.
(a) EXCEPTION PAIRS FOR STACKING DRONES, means breeding a pair of bees of the same type, so they have no chance of changing into another type. This is also known as stabilizing the species, as you will have an "unlimited" supply of drones of that bee type, to breed with other bees without risking losing that species.
(b) NON-EXCEPTION PAIRS FOR MUTATIONS, means breeding a pair of bees of different type, so they might mutate.
(3) Once you have the non-exceptions converted, keeping one pair of common to get STACKING drones, begin to breed you EXTRA meadows/forest drones with your common princesses, except for the one common princess you are keeping to make stacking drones. If the result of these is that you get a meadows/forest princess, breed it with your common drones. The goal of this is to get cultivated bees.
(4) Once again, keeping one pair of cultivated to get STACKING drones, breed CULTIVATED with COMMON. You will have a chance to get either noble or diligent (or unweary?) bees, representing the imperial/industrious branches respectively.
(5) From here, once again... It is a matter of achieving the mutation, then sustaining it to get stacking drones and then using the extras to get further mutations. Now you have to deal with two possibilities, instead of a single mutation path... So, hopefully you have developed some strategy, so you don't get confused.
Well, once again, bee breeding is a matter of experience and strategy. If you want to get started with bees, you'll just have to dive in and start identifying all the things you don't know. There are a lot of resources for your to find information, such that you really need to know what you don't know, before you can being to filter through the mass of data.
That being said, the best way to start off with bees, is an exercise in getting imperial/industrious.
(1) Acquire as many meadows/forest bees you can. In AS queens have a chance of producing extra princesses, so this isn't as imperative. Though, consider that mutations is a probability, so if you have multiple pairs of bees breeding, you have a higher chance of getting the mutation.
(2) Breed them ALL to common, with the exception of ONE pair of meadows and ONE pair of forest. The exception pairs you will want to breed so you get STACKING drones. Developing the memory/strategy to mutate multiple meadows/forest bees into common is a very important skill, which will carry through to all your bee activities. Mixing and matching drones and princess of opposite type, means a system of keeping all the extra drones and a system of organization will need to be developed. Once again, very important skill.
(a) EXCEPTION PAIRS FOR STACKING DRONES, means breeding a pair of bees of the same type, so they have no chance of changing into another type. This is also known as stabilizing the species, as you will have an "unlimited" supply of drones of that bee type, to breed with other bees without risking losing that species.
(b) NON-EXCEPTION PAIRS FOR MUTATIONS, means breeding a pair of bees of different type, so they might mutate.
(3) Once you have the non-exceptions converted, keeping one pair of common to get STACKING drones, begin to breed you EXTRA meadows/forest drones with your common princesses, except for the one common princess you are keeping to make stacking drones. If the result of these is that you get a meadows/forest princess, breed it with your common drones. The goal of this is to get cultivated bees.
(4) Once again, keeping one pair of cultivated to get STACKING drones, breed CULTIVATED with COMMON. You will have a chance to get either noble or diligent (or unweary?) bees, representing the imperial/industrious branches respectively.
(5) From here, once again... It is a matter of achieving the mutation, then sustaining it to get stacking drones and then using the extras to get further mutations. Now you have to deal with two possibilities, instead of a single mutation path... So, hopefully you have developed some strategy, so you don't get confused.
Great. Now you must conquer butterflies, trees, and fish. You didnt think you were going to get off that easy, did you?OMG BEES
BEES GUYS
I GET IT NOW
I now have 6 Pristine Cult-Cult all producing wonderful cult drones for me while I throw my head back and laugh ;D Bees are the PERFECT BALANCE of effort and time wrapped into one. I am truly enjoying Minecraft right now! I feel like they're vanilla farming 2.0 -- but can't be rushed. Bees guys. Bees.
Oh and PS: I just got my first Unwavering-Diligent Pristine Princess and matching drone! OMG
The whole reason I started bees was to make an ebony wood floor for my vacation house.
Fish? Unless you're into Mariculture, I don't really suggest paying too much heed to the fish.
But do focus on butterflies. Info is needed on them!
Ah, well, uh, bad news. A handful of saplings of most kinds could have done you fine then. The self breeding tree farm setup is how I roll for my tree farms.
Sounds awesome. Dont forget the butterflies and fish though
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Oh, no. I was joking about the fish, along with the rest of it xD I was just listing every thing I knew of yhat was like bee breeding xD
Mariculture is where the fish are from. It's... Not very similar to bee keeping.
Sounds awesome. Dont forget the butterflies and fish though
Oh, no. I was joking about the fish, along with the rest of it xD I was just listing every thing I knew of yhat was like bee breeding xD
But I'm serious about the butterflies.
Why not exploit villagers for that purpose? The Forestry tree villager can sometimes have a trade for forestry wood, usually half a stack for an emerald, I know that sounds expensive but when you exploit a whole village emeralds are dirt. If you are not adverse to actions that would be considered crimes against testificanity you can even pick up the villagers (using your mob moving tool of choice) you don't want, toss them in to a TiC smeltery for extra emeralds 4 villagers tends to equal 1 emerald. Also you can put an emerald on a casting table with aluminum brass to make a gem cast, so you don't have to deal with the blocks.
Only problem with that is I don't remember if ebony wood/ saplings is in the trading table. Also it pays to exploit villagers for bees too, proven frames make bee production rather good.
1 villager can be unlimited emeralds if cared for correctly...
Also unless the rates were nerfed, it's a villager a emerald, but they have to be a full health when you put them in.
In my experience each villager has given me .25 of an emerald from full health, I am using a custom pack though but that has also been my experience on official FTB packs too, but I'll take your word.
And I know of the villager regen exploit, not sure about the mods that let you do it though.
Vanilla can, assuming you can find a way to lower them in and take them out before they die. Or if you use healing splash potions instead of regeneration potions. Every mod solution is only more complicated yet also effective.
The go to system is a way to lower them in when you fill it, and raise them up when at 5 health. The raising/lowering is easy to do with Thaumic Tinkerer, and regeneration easy to do with Geostrata and the crystal lamps.
Ik thats what they are from...
Just they seem somewhat similar, in the breeding aspect. And that mariculture fish is useless as food D:<
Not true! Just have to be dead first. Easy enough to do, chuck it on the ground. It'll die, then pick it up and make sushi or miso soup, or maybe fish fingers(cod only IIRC). Fish fingers can be combined with Custard to make Fish Fingers N' Custard, which is also a cool food.
Why didnt anyone tell me this before I had to go setup a reliable source of food for agrarian skies, and I tossed my mariculture rods into the void -_-
The throwing them on the ground bit? It's not in NEI, but it's also not exactly hard to figure out. Fish out of water and all that.
Make sure you throw them on the ground, and not inside water. Inside water they will live forever.