How to remove UU-Matter from a tank?

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Bryantom

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I've got an IC2 Mass Fabricator creating and pumping UU-Matter into a liquid tank so I can begin creating Quantum armor. How do I remove the UU-Matter from the tank? I've tried a bucket, but it doesn't work. Any help would be appreciated.

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Bryan
 

Type1Ninja

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All,

I've got an IC2 Mass Fabricator creating and pumping UU-Matter into a liquid tank so I can begin creating Quantum armor. How do I remove the UU-Matter from the tank? I've tried a bucket, but it doesn't work. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bryan
Well, this is a fundamental topic...
I'm going to edit my explanation into this post. :p

Here goes:
Read this whole thing before starting, there's some stuff I only tell you about halfway through which you need to know to start properly. :p

So, with Forge, you have items, blocks, and now fluids. These fluids can be stored in any block a mod author registers as a tank, including various machines that use or create said fluids. They can be pulled out with any kind of fluid pipe, which, for you, probably includes EnderIO conduits, Buildcraft fluid pipes, and Thermal Expansion (Thermal Dynamics) Fluiducts. These all have their own methods of working; I'll explain Buildcraft, as that is the simplest (though the others are more useful if you look into them). For buildcraft, you'll want to start with some basic pipes. There are various tiers, some of which have special uses - the "regular" ones which you'll want to use for simplicity's sake (although they all have tooltips which you can use to get info) are, in order of throughput, Cobblestone, Stone, and Quartz (note that these cannot connect to each other, which is useful as you continue automating things). You'll also need a wooden fluid pipe to extract fluids FROM the Mass Fab (probably; this may be different depending on how the mass fab itself works, someone with more IC2 experience can explain that). So, you place down your Wooden Fluid pipe next to the Mass Fab, and then you need to power it. This can be done with RF (a different electricity system from IC2), or you can use Buildcraft's native engines (which I recommend). In particular, the Redstone Engine is cheap, simple, and doesn't require anything but redstone signal to run. So craft a Redstone Engine (or more, which will be faster) and place it/them down next to the wooden pipe and power them all with redstone signal. They should begin a pumping animation. Now, the wooden fluid pipe will pull the liquid out of the Mass Fab, and place it into the next available fluid inventory - this can be a machine using UU, a tank, or pipes. In the event that wherever you want the UU to go is not directly adjacent to the wooden pipe, you will need to make a line of Cobblestone, Stone, or Quartz fluid pipes connecting the wooden pipe to the final destination. Now, the fluid will flow through the pipes to your final machine. BAM! That's automation! :D

As a side note, a LOT of that applies to regular item transport as well. Just use Transport pipes instead of Fluid pipes.

If you want me/someone else to explain the other methods of fluid transport, we will; I'm just too lazy and that was a small essay right there. :p
 
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Bryantom

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Actually, I already have the Mass Fabricator pushing the UU-Matter into a tank. See the attached picture. I want to know how to get it out of that tank and on to a crafting table.

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Bryan
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Actually, I already have the Mass Fabricator pushing the UU-Matter into a tank. See the attached picture. I want to know how to get it out of that tank and on to a crafting table.

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BryanView attachment 20661
Hmm... I haven't touched IC or UU in a very long time, so I don't know how it works. Do you mean, 'turn it into a solid to craft with' or 'get it out of the tank into another machine?' I don't *think* UU is supposed to be a crafting ingredient anymore; I think you... like... scan the items you wan to duplicate, and then... Well, some complex system I don't know the workings of. :p
 

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-You need to make the IC2 wigmaker.
-For this you'll need both tin and iron comb-teeth to make iron and tin wig-combs, so you'll need a comb-extruder.
-You can do this manually but it takes an extra 11 crafting stages.
-Unfortunately, you'll also need some more infrastructure to make the comb-extruder:
-A bullshit machine frame. It's an advanced machine frame surrounded by compressed bullshit crystals. Luckily this oredicts with MFR sewage so you can substitute. Just pump it into a compressor and it should work.
-Once you have bullshit crystals and a bullshit machine frame you are ready to make your wigmaker.
-Use some orange dye and the back end of a sheep, feed it into the wig maker to make yourself a massive ginger.

Now you are ready to properly extract UU-matter with a bucket.
 

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What ninja said. UU needs to be pumped In to a special machine probably something along the limes of a "matter constructor" I don't remember. I also think there's a special machine that you store patterns that teach the fabricator what it can build.

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You need 4 machines to make stuff from UU Matter in ic2 experimental:

The Mass Fabricator makes a liquid that must be piped into:
The Replicator actually makes stuff from UU-Matter and patterns stored in an adjacent:
Pattern Storage stores patterns for use by a replicator that are loaded from disks or an adjacent:
Scanner will scan items (such as iridium).
They all use lots of power :)
 

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You need 4 machines to make stuff from UU Matter in ic2 experimental:

The Mass Fabricator makes a liquid that must be piped into:
The Replicator actually makes stuff from UU-Matter and patterns stored in an adjacent:
Pattern Storage stores patterns for use by a replicator that are loaded from disks or an adjacent:
Scanner will scan items (such as iridium).
They all use lots of power :)

I would add the Recycler too. A LOT of Recyclers. Feed them cobble, turn the scrap into scrap boxes and feed those into the Mass Fabs. They really speed up UUMatter production a lot.

I had 8 cobble gens feeding 192 Recyclers feeding 64 Mass Fabs feeding 2 Replicators, which allowed me to make tons of Iridium Ore so I could make a ridiculous amount of Advanced Solar Panels. Infinity was a fun modpack. :)

Scanner is only needed once, to make the disc with the Iridium Ore pattern, then you can throw the machine away (not literally LOL). After a long time, I changed the disc pattern from making Iridium Ore balls to making Iridium Plates, so technically I did need to use the Scanner twice. The Pattern Storage machine just needs to touch the Replicators while they are running.

Finally, I didn't store my UUMatter, I just EnderIO-fluid-conduit'ed it (lol) from the Mass Fabs directly into the Replicators.
 
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-You need to make the IC2 wigmaker.
-For this you'll need both tin and iron comb-teeth to make iron and tin wig-combs, so you'll need a comb-extruder.
-You can do this manually but it takes an extra 11 crafting stages.
-Unfortunately, you'll also need some more infrastructure to make the comb-extruder:
-A bullshit machine frame. It's an advanced machine frame surrounded by compressed bullshit crystals. Luckily this oredicts with MFR sewage so you can substitute. Just pump it into a compressor and it should work.
-Once you have bullshit crystals and a bullshit machine frame you are ready to make your wigmaker.
-Use some orange dye and the back end of a sheep, feed it into the wig maker to make yourself a massive ginger.

Now you are ready to properly extract UU-matter with a bucket.

Wow, you really hate IC2 machines, don't you?! :)
 

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Thank you for the replies. I must have been watching old youtube videos where it shows the UU-Matter coming out of the fabricator as a solid, and then just using the solids to create the ore. Lots of work to be done. By the way, asb3pe, what kind of power source were you using to have so many machines running at once? I'm working on a non-IC2 reactor which I'm hoping will do the job as I'm tired of filling lava buckets all day long. If I was smart enough to figure out how to pipe lava directly into the generator....
 
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Thank you for the replies. I must have been watching old youtube videos where it shows the UU-Matter coming out of the fabricator as a solid, and then just using the solids to create the ore. Lots of work to be done. By the way, asb3pe, what kind of power source were you using to have so many machines running at once? I'm working on a non-IC2 reactor which I'm hoping will do the job as I'm tired of filling lava buckets all day long. If I was smart enough to figure out how to pipe lava directly into the generator....
So, you set up a Buildcraft pump over a lava lake. One way to do that is by digging a shaft from the surface all the way down to the lava, and then putting your pump at the top, over the lava (you save piping that way). Then, put your choice of fluid pipes on top of the pump and lead them to your generator. Now, you are presented with the issue of powering your pump with RF (which is different from EU) - there are a couple ways to do this. The first (and less cool) method is just to stick 4 redstone engines around it and give them a signal. This works, but it's slow, and there's a more effective method - you can power the pump with the very lava it pulls from the ground. To do that, put a Magmatic Dynamo (from Thermal Expansion) or two down next to the pump and connect their tops with fluid pipes. You'll need to supply at least one of the engines with a bucket of lava to give it a jump start. Then, the pump will beginning extracting the lava from the ground, filling the Magmatic Dynamo(s) to power itself and putting the rest into your IC2 Thermal Generator thingy (don't know the name). Yay! Electricity! As a side note, your pump may or may not be much faster than a single IC2 lava generator, so you may want to build a BUNCH of them and then pump lava into all of them. :)
 

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Thank you for the replies. I must have been watching old youtube videos where it shows the UU-Matter coming out of the fabricator as a solid, and then just using the solids to create the ore. Lots of work to be done. By the way, asb3pe, what kind of power source were you using to have so many machines running at once? I'm working on a non-IC2 reactor which I'm hoping will do the job as I'm tired of filling lava buckets all day long. If I was smart enough to figure out how to pipe lava directly into the generator....

It is distressingly difficult to tell, a lot of the time, whether a discusion relates to classic IC or IC2 experimental.

I would advise a nuclear reactor to produce IC2 EU natively. While they can be complicated, there are hassle free designs that use a few simple components, allowing the basic reactor that scale from from 60 to 360 EU/t to be built.

Industrial craft geothermal generators on the other hand only generate 20EU/t - allthough if you can build a system that places a lava source block under the generator, and place it adjacent to an IC2 pump, it will generate 30EU/t (ive never gotten this to work).
 

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So, you set up a Buildcraft pump over a lava lake. One way to do that is by digging a shaft from the surface all the way down to the lava, and then putting your pump at the top, over the lava (you save piping that way). Then, put your choice of fluid pipes on top of the pump and lead them to your generator. Now, you are presented with the issue of powering your pump with RF (which is different from EU) - there are a couple ways to do this. The first (and less cool) method is just to stick 4 redstone engines around it and give them a signal. This works, but it's slow, and there's a more effective method - you can power the pump with the very lava it pulls from the ground. To do that, put a Magmatic Dynamo (from Thermal Expansion) or two down next to the pump and connect their tops with fluid pipes. You'll need to supply at least one of the engines with a bucket of lava to give it a jump start. Then, the pump will beginning extracting the lava from the ground, filling the Magmatic Dynamo(s) to power itself and putting the rest into your IC2 Thermal Generator thingy (don't know the name). Yay! Electricity! As a side note, your pump may or may not be much faster than a single IC2 lava generator, so you may want to build a BUNCH of them and then pump lava into all of them. :)

Lava is not unlimited when using a bucket. Is it the same system with a pump over the lava? Will I have to keep moving the pump to a new lava (node)?

Bryan
 

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It is distressingly difficult to tell, a lot of the time, whether a discusion relates to classic IC or IC2 experimental.

I would advise a nuclear reactor to produce IC2 EU natively. While they can be complicated, there are hassle free designs that use a few simple components, allowing the basic reactor that scale from from 60 to 360 EU/t to be built.

Industrial craft geothermal generators on the other hand only generate 20EU/t - allthough if you can build a system that places a lava source block under the generator, and place it adjacent to an IC2 pump, it will generate 30EU/t (ive never gotten this to work).

I'm noticing that. In the future I'll be more specific that it is experimental. I've got a bunch of generators both EU and RF. While annoying, I'm getting a hang of it. I build a Big Reactors reactor, I'm working on the rednet connections now.

Bryan
 

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Lava is not unlimited when using a bucket. Is it the same system with a pump over the lava? Will I have to keep moving the pump to a new lava (node)?

Bryan

The buildcraft pump will fetch lava from quite a wide area. So, while you will have to keep on moving the pump it won't be all that often. Unless you have *many* generators burning lava you should go for hours between pump moves.
 

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I'm noticing that. In the future I'll be more specific that it is experimental. I've got a bunch of generators both EU and RF. While annoying, I'm getting a hang of it. I build a Big Reactors reactor, I'm working on the rednet connections now.

Bryan

If you have the Big Reactor actively cooled, it will produce steam rather than RF. This steam can power both a BR Turbine (output scales based on materials and size) and a RailCraft Turbine (200eu/t). The RC Turbine requires a metric shitton if iron/steel, but I've found it to be the easiest solution outside of spamming solar panels.
 
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Once you have the Big Reactor Turbine running, you can run Mine Factory Reloaded Rednet Energy cable from it to your Matter Fabricator directly. No need for the RC turbine.
 

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Thank you for the replies. I must have been watching old youtube videos where it shows the UU-Matter coming out of the fabricator as a solid, and then just using the solids to create the ore. Lots of work to be done. By the way, asb3pe, what kind of power source were you using to have so many machines running at once? I'm working on a non-IC2 reactor which I'm hoping will do the job as I'm tired of filling lava buckets all day long. If I was smart enough to figure out how to pipe lava directly into the generator....

It's like climbing a ladder. One rung at a time. First I made Thermal Generators and ran them off lava cause lava is the easiest way to get going with IC2 EU power. But my main power source is always Oil->Fuel (using BC refineries), so after a while I had 64 Semi-Fluid Generators running to power my stuff and tore down the lava power stuff. Eventually, I had enough Advanced Solar Panels to get rid of the Semi-Fluid Gens as well. Just use LOTS of Generators. The more the better.

I use a BC Pump and a TE Tesseract to bring oil back to my base for refining. I also did Bees, so I had Refined Bees making my Fuel directly, eventually. Bees were also making my lava too! So I filled a Bedrockium Drum with lava and used EnderIO fluid conduit to pump the lava from the Drum into the IC2 Generators. Bascially, whatever transport method you use, just use EnderIO as the last link in the chain before the IC2 machine.

Prob the easiest way for lava is just stick a BC Pump in a Nether lava lake and throw an EnderTank on top - endless lava.
 

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It's like climbing a ladder. One rung at a time. First I made Thermal Generators and ran them off lava cause lava is the easiest way to get going with IC2 EU power. But my main power source is always Oil->Fuel (using BC refineries), so after a while I had 64 Semi-Fluid Generators running to power my stuff and tore down the lava power stuff. Eventually, I had enough Advanced Solar Panels to get rid of the Semi-Fluid Gens as well. Just use LOTS of Generators. The more the better.

I use a BC Pump and a TE Tesseract to bring oil back to my base for refining. I also did Bees, so I had Refined Bees making my Fuel directly, eventually. Bees were also making my lava too! So I filled a Bedrockium Drum with lava and used EnderIO fluid conduit to pump the lava from the Drum into the IC2 Generators. Bascially, whatever transport method you use, just use EnderIO as the last link in the chain before the IC2 machine.

Prob the easiest way for lava is just stick a BC Pump in a Nether lava lake and throw an EnderTank on top - endless lava.

Good tips, thanks.

Bryan
 
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IC2 has the most stupidly easy power generation of any mod I've ever seen. Coal, lava, solar, wind, water. If you can't find a way to make power with IC2, something is wrong.

Engineer's Toolbox can also generate IC2 power, and has it's own converter from RF. Or it did in 1.6.4. I'm not sure if it still does.