How MV Solar array actually work?

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AquaLiquid

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The first one. MFE comes before the LV Trans.
thank you, i'll try it right away

The first one. MFE comes before the LV Trans.

I would expect to see a MASSIVE difference when you do it this way too. As mentioned, I was getting probably more than 5 times the energy that way.

That being said, I could not figure out how exactly things work. I ended up with 3 identical setups, all run from the same wireless transmitter to run the exact same amount of time...and every single time they came out a little bit different:(

actually this is kinda weird :/, for some reason its even weaker than before :/, can't keep up 2 IC2 machine + ME network :/ , not sure whats wrong, already setup it like on the sketch i made before
do i need more MFE?, is it will make difference if the power come from more than 1 MFE?

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now this is weird, iam fully disconnecting the power from my MV solar arrays, but the MFE still intact on the LV transformer, and the power comes out no problem, i can power 2 IC2 machine with one of them using 2 overclock upgrade
wth is going on here :confused:, iam really is confuse :D

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more MFE not help anything, even though both FME on full charge but still the power output doesnt change, still weak, this is really confusing
 
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immibis

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I haven't used IC2 since before the IC2E updates, so I don't know if anything with the EU network has changed.

Stop right there, criminal scum - everything has changed.

There's no voltage any more, only power (EU/t). There's no cable loss. Machines and cables never explode, apart from GregTech ones - they will explode again "in the future" (i.e. after Half-Life 3). LV is 32 eu/t. MV is 128 EU/t. HV is 512 EU/t. EV is 2048 EU/t. UV (?) is 8192 EU/t.

MFEs and MFSUs were increased by a tier. Now MFEs are tier 3 (HV), MFSUs are tier 4 (EV) and tier 2 uses a new block called a CESU. Similar for batteries: energy crystals are tier 3, lapatron crystals are tier 4, and tier 2 uses a new item - advanced batteries.

Cables were restructured as well. Tin is 32 EU/t max. Copper is 128 EU/t max. Gold is 512 EU/t max. HV is 2048 EU/t max. Glass fibre is 8192 EU/t max. Not that it matters with explosions disabled.

Energy crystals now take 4 diamonds, and so do lapatron crystals by extension. This means MFEs cost 16 diamonds (compared to 10 for old MFSUs) and MFSUs cost 40 diamonds! Glass fibre cable costs one diamond per block. On the other hand, CESUs require zero diamonds (compared to 4 for old MFEs) but they do require you to do some annoying ore processing to get the required sulfur, unless you have other mods installed that add their own sulfur.

I think that's everything you need to know about the new system.
 

zemerick

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Stop right there, criminal scum - everything has changed.

There's no voltage any more, only power (EU/t). There's no cable loss. Machines and cables never explode, apart from GregTech ones - they will explode again "in the future" (i.e. after Half-Life 3). LV is 32 eu/t. MV is 128 EU/t. HV is 512 EU/t. EV is 2048 EU/t. UV (?) is 8192 EU/t.

MFEs and MFSUs were increased by a tier. Now MFEs are tier 3 (HV), MFSUs are tier 4 (EV) and tier 2 uses a new block called a CESU. Similar for batteries: energy crystals are tier 3, lapatron crystals are tier 4, and tier 2 uses a new item - advanced batteries.

Cables were restructured as well. Tin is 32 EU/t max. Copper is 128 EU/t max. Gold is 512 EU/t max. HV is 2048 EU/t max. Glass fibre is 8192 EU/t max. Not that it matters with explosions disabled.

Energy crystals now take 4 diamonds, and so do lapatron crystals by extension. This means MFEs cost 16 diamonds (compared to 10 for old MFSUs) and MFSUs cost 40 diamonds! Glass fibre cable costs one diamond per block. On the other hand, CESUs require zero diamonds (compared to 4 for old MFEs) but they do require you to do some annoying ore processing to get the required sulfur, unless you have other mods installed that add their own sulfur.

I think that's everything you need to know about the new system.

That helps to clear some of it up, but do you by any chance have any more details on how the network uses power and where the losses are? The OP seems to be having severe problems with the setup I used, and even when I recreated 3 identical setups I saw about 1-5% variance between then. Also, I saw about a 500% difference based off of where I put transformers, and I also still saw a difference between some of the cable types. So far through my testing though...it's all looking like voodoo magic. This is made even worse by all of the various wikis having information even older than I did. ( About a year or more out of date in many cases. )

I'm not sure about the OP, but I am using the current Monster, which has IC2E: 2.0.397
 

AquaLiquid

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so thanks to immibis i...well i can say iam quite understand the situation
so i tried to use 2 CESU instead of 2 MFE, but still theres no different with power output, still weak
and my friend suggest to make ME network its own power source, so i try it, make 1 MV solar array, put it with CESU and LV transformer, its powering ME network fine, and now i can power my IC2 machines with no problem, i try to power 4 machines (1 induction furnace, 2 metal former, 1 macerator) theres no power problem again

but it still confusing, total output from 2 CESU should be 128x2 = 256 eu/t
if i calculate all machine that i used to test is (i take the max power they used) 128+32+32+17 = 209 (macerator not included)
it should be enough tho, but iam not sure if i calculate it right, since i am not calculate the power loss yet, but from the lv transformer to the machines i use copper cable and its quite near, probably just lose 3/4 eu, and from MV transformer into CESU i use full glass fibre cable, which is none eu loss since its below 40 blocks

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i thought i already safe, but iam not, for a while the power goes drop again even tho not completely, but still drop quite a lot, so i think to support it with 2 LV transformer which input with the same center cable, and it works!, i don't know if this permanent fix and not sure about the power drop later, but i'll keep an eye on it
 
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