I've been tinkering around with bees and alvearies and liking what I get from that setup. The only question I have is: when I have a queen that produces more than 1 drone per breeding cycle, how do I pull the extra offspring out? What I normally do is run a wooden transport pipe + autarchic gate to an apiarists pipe to grab the bees and send them back into the alveary, and send items off somewhere else to keep the production going...but when theres an extra drone per lifecycle, i end up seeing a pile of drones in the alveary after letting the map run a while. how do you pull the extras out via automation?
how do you handle extra bee offspring in an alveary?
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I personally use Logistics Pipes for bee automation, but you can just make an overflow pipe connected to the pipe adjacent to the Alveary that leads to a chest or a void pipe.
In my opinion Logistics Pipes handles this a lot better by only putting one Drone back in the Apiary and the rest to another destination.
In my opinion Logistics Pipes handles this a lot better by only putting one Drone back in the Apiary and the rest to another destination.
im confused. let me show in a screenshot:
output (anything in the alveary, including princess/drones) come out the wooden pipe, up to an apiarists pipe. from there i send any bees back to the alveary, and items go out the other way. how do i catch overflow drones without breaking that design too much?
nevermind...i just saw a youtube vid that shows the module specifically for keeping bee pairs in an apiary..very cool stuff, im trying it out as we speak
output (anything in the alveary, including princess/drones) come out the wooden pipe, up to an apiarists pipe. from there i send any bees back to the alveary, and items go out the other way. how do i catch overflow drones without breaking that design too much?
nevermind...i just saw a youtube vid that shows the module specifically for keeping bee pairs in an apiary..very cool stuff, im trying it out as we speak
I used to have a bee breeding setup in a 1.4 world with vanilla BC pipes. I'd line up a whole line of apiaries next to eachother, and I'd put wooden gates with authartic gates on the sides, with a stone/cobblestone pipes bring them up, and diamond/apiarist pipes across the top. they'd pull out the offspring, and pipes would lead them back up and the offspring would be send into the top using the diamond/apiarist pipes. if the drones slots would be full, the diamond/apiarist pipe would then send any excess along to the other diamond/apiarist pipes leading back to my storage system
owerflow drones will go out on the same way as items if there is no more space for drones.
What I do is that I have the wooden pipe on alveray and next to that the apiarist's pipe touching the alveray. In this way the princess and drones to direct back to alveray and all overflow drones are going out with the items.
ya. except with alvearies....drones will stack in the drone slot. thats what my problem was. unless its a behavior i missed...the way my pipes are ran, i never saw if the alveary was trying to block extra drones coming in. it happily takes in the extras tho. i just didnt see how to catch the extras as they were going thru the apiarist pipes
its all good tho. i tried logistics pipes..theres a module specifically for this that solved the problem and it works flawlessly now. no more extras taking up space in the farm and the piping is a lot neater
its all good tho. i tried logistics pipes..theres a module specifically for this that solved the problem and it works flawlessly now. no more extras taking up space in the farm and the piping is a lot neater
Yes it will fill the drones in the slot but when there are more than 64 drones it cant fit more in. And with an alverari you will fast get a lot of drones.... Right now Im processing my 12k Pure drones to DNA
oh i see. ya i never let them get to that point, i just didnt want to see ANY extra dones in that slot. i was looking for a solution that would pull the extra drone *before* it went back into the alveary. LP does that very nicely with an apiary restocking module
See the extra drones as "saving in the bank". When you need to have an extra princess you can take 16 of the drones and a princess of other trait and you can breed her to be same kind as the drones.
I use:
1x Wooden Pipe
1x Autarchic Gate set to pulse on "Items in Inventory"
1x Apiarist Pipe set to "all bees" back into the Alveary (the white color for me) and "everything" set to an Ender Chest (usually the black color)
Both pipes are directly beneath and connected to (touching) the alveary.
Note that the first change when you left-click on a color in an Apiarist pipe is a question mark for "everything/all". This is effectively a lowest-priority default route. The "all bees" direction at 3 left-clicks on a given color is higher priority. This means my Alvearies eventually fill up with 64 drones. One of them is bred with the Princess, so at any given time, there are usually 63 drones sitting in it with the Queen.
The Ender Chest goes into my AE system where the combs are centrifuged and the extra drones are either directed into a Genepool or collected onto a formatted drive to be put into an Energy Condenser to make Singularities for Quantum bridges. If using an IC2 Fabricator, I'd probably use the extra drones for scrap.
1x Wooden Pipe
1x Autarchic Gate set to pulse on "Items in Inventory"
1x Apiarist Pipe set to "all bees" back into the Alveary (the white color for me) and "everything" set to an Ender Chest (usually the black color)
Both pipes are directly beneath and connected to (touching) the alveary.
Note that the first change when you left-click on a color in an Apiarist pipe is a question mark for "everything/all". This is effectively a lowest-priority default route. The "all bees" direction at 3 left-clicks on a given color is higher priority. This means my Alvearies eventually fill up with 64 drones. One of them is bred with the Princess, so at any given time, there are usually 63 drones sitting in it with the Queen.
The Ender Chest goes into my AE system where the combs are centrifuged and the extra drones are either directed into a Genepool or collected onto a formatted drive to be put into an Energy Condenser to make Singularities for Quantum bridges. If using an IC2 Fabricator, I'd probably use the extra drones for scrap.
[I think in effect my way is the same as Miguk above me, but I'm not entirely sure, too tired to work out]
My way is to have the apiarist pipe flush with the alveary, have the direction going to the alveary as all bees, this will put the princess and as many drones as it can that way, and then have two outgoing pipelines, one for drones to be homogenised and one for items.
The apiarist pipe will in preference send the drones to the alveary, and only once the alveary has a stack of drones will it start sending them down the secondary line
My way is to have the apiarist pipe flush with the alveary, have the direction going to the alveary as all bees, this will put the princess and as many drones as it can that way, and then have two outgoing pipelines, one for drones to be homogenised and one for items.
The apiarist pipe will in preference send the drones to the alveary, and only once the alveary has a stack of drones will it start sending them down the secondary line
Adonis0,
Yes, that's the same as I use. My bees are in a chunkloaded area on a server, so I'm not worried about a stack of drones sitting in the alveary.
With just 3 blocks required for automation : 1 wooden pipe w/autarchic, 1 apiarist pipe, 1 ender chest, I can then supply up to size (6) Alveary Frames with up to six (6) AE Basic Export Buses exporting Impregnated Frames for 'production' Alvearies or Soul Frames for mutating alvearies. I can use up to 7 frames if I place the ender chest beneath the apiarist pipe rather than flush against the alveary.
These 9 or 10 blocks total will fit at a depth of 1 or 2 just beneath the Alveary, which makes for a clean setup. I like to hide wires and cables as much as possible, especially in my bee/farm area.
Yes, that's the same as I use. My bees are in a chunkloaded area on a server, so I'm not worried about a stack of drones sitting in the alveary.
With just 3 blocks required for automation : 1 wooden pipe w/autarchic, 1 apiarist pipe, 1 ender chest, I can then supply up to size (6) Alveary Frames with up to six (6) AE Basic Export Buses exporting Impregnated Frames for 'production' Alvearies or Soul Frames for mutating alvearies. I can use up to 7 frames if I place the ender chest beneath the apiarist pipe rather than flush against the alveary.
These 9 or 10 blocks total will fit at a depth of 1 or 2 just beneath the Alveary, which makes for a clean setup. I like to hide wires and cables as much as possible, especially in my bee/farm area.
try using factorization routers for frames. 1 router can stock frames on quite a few alvearies, as long as they are 'linked' somehow with chests or what not. use machine filters and speed boost, set them to tileextrabeealveary for machine type, and then all u need is one AE export bus talking to the router instead of each individual housing