Windows .exe Hoppers

[Myt]

hmm Anyone know how to edit the Hoppers to send more then only 1 piece trough??

the prob is simple i run a mystcraft world whit 20 quarrys in it ...
they gate stuff to overworld to my 10 recyclers whit each 20 hoppers (i wish i could reduce the ammount of hoppers) the problem is ... the hopper send only 1 piece down not the whole stack so all my hoppers gets rapidly overfilled (ya i have a overfill secure method, but still it sux ..) since sorters and filters not exist's atm .. any other solution for it anyone? or simple how to edit for hoppers gets stacks trough (and yes all recyclers are overclocked can kill a stack in 10sec ..)

 

[darR3Ke]

i dont think it's changed that easy, if it's feeding whole stacks you are gonna get an overflow in the machine when it tries to feed the machine and there are still items left in it, like it used to do with buildcraft pipes. You'll get loads of stuff on the ground and will have a bad time

 

[dafiremaster]

Forestry Electrical engines move things in complete stacks. could always throw the stuff into chests, and use a combination of electrical engines and buildcraft gates(though I'm not sure that they'll pick up status of IC2 machines)

 

[Myt]

hoppers are there to not overflow machines ... just they dont get enough in ... if machine is full hopper stops pump stuff in .. thats the point of that thing ... and well it dosent kills sorting machines from rp2 when too much stuff is in tubes ...
since rp2 isnt out yet i cant use tubes so .. filters sorting machines etc imposible to fix this ...

normal pipes cant be stoped when they full .. except it would be logistic pipes but they too not in yet

 

[Celestialphoenix]

Hoppers work like a RP relay, so if there's dirt in the recycler, any dirt entering the hoppers will drop through- where'as cobble will stick in them until the dirt clears.

You could probably spare some diamond for sorting pipes to split off different materials.

And check that your overclocked recyclers are running faster than your quarries.

 

[TheSandwichMakr]

Just as celestialpheonix said they work just like redpower relays except relays dump entire stacks, have a larger inventory, and can dump items into tubes. So I would suggest using relays

 

[Myt]

celest i know that the prob is still even when hoppers are filled lets say only whit sand and in recycler is sand too still hoppers drops only 1 piece not whole stack .. and that makes a big ass hell overflow of stuff
just try it out
build a 4 quarrys in a desert add 2 recyclers and build at least 10 hoppers on it ... u will see a flickering recycler because hopers adds all time only 1 piece .. so when pipes gets full whit a load of sand it will start drop around like hell .. item lag programmed (bad when u play on a server)
even when u overclock a recycler the problem is hopper STILL adds only 1 piece in and not a stack so even when recycler is faster it wont get rid fast enough of 10 full hoppers whitout overflow

@thesandwich
well how to tell to u i use hoppers because there isnt any RP in yet so no rp means no relays ^^

 

[Vauthil]

Yeah, unfortunately the solution isn't going to be tweaking hoppers; they're working exactly as the developers of Buildcraft intended (as a constant, steady means of running a small backlog of items) and there's no reason then to make them configurable like that. Until RedPower2 or LogisticsPipes are in, more manual solutions are probably going to be the way to go.

I haven't messed with the GregTech item transfer stuff yet, but there may be a solution buried in there. Not savvy enough with the mod myself to be able to help out, though.

 

[Myt]

hmm so hoppers gets usless items when rp comes out since noone will use em then ... they should be configurable otherwise well ...
gregtech has nice stuff but im still into getting to it .. its well hmm chaotic there some sortings stuff etc but nothing realy helps whit this prob .. well atm .. it even creates more probs

 

[damnedsky]

A fast solution that comes to mind is using a buffer chest next to the recycler/machine and pumping items out with a powerful engine(ex: coal engine pulls stacks of 51 at a time if memory servers.... or use electrical engine from forestry) the pipe over the recycler should be a stone one(there is no insertion pipe in the modpack yet right?) because it acts as a best effort insertion pipe which means it still picks a random direction at a junction but if the inventory is full then it wont drop the item anymore and it will sent it along the line.
ignore the godawful talent

 

[Myt]

u should test this first when u run more then 4 quarrys like i do .. this method dont help much

i switched my pumping in to steve carts method now it works whitout overflow .. is slower but well somehow more fun .. need relays badly

 

[Celestialphoenix]

If your hoppers only add one Item at a time; then thats your bottleneck; make more recyclers and spread out the overclockers and funnels to distribute evenly between them.

 

[damnedsky]

This I really want to see! Would you mind making a thread describing this in the General Discussion area of the forum?! Just a few pictures would suffice but words would be a nice addition.

 

[Myt]

@celest
read first post using 20 quarrys whit 10 recyclers normaly works whit relays good .. whit hoppers well .. 20 hopper per recycler not realy good

my momentan new method makes it slower have a cycle of 2-3 carts they slow needs longer to get full so b4 the one moves to exit the other gets empty

@damned
i add some screens later on ..

 

[TheSandwichMakr]

@thesandwich
well how to tell to u i use hoppers because there isnt any RP in yet so no rp means no relays ^^

Wow, I'm an idiot.

 

[Celestialphoenix]

Here's a screenie in my test world; no overclockers in the recyclers, and the scrap is pumped back into them. The quarry is running at full moo, and there's a few igneous extruder s sending extra crap into the mix.

Result? Everything rolls around the pipe loop without dropping, overfilling the end hoppers first.

My suggestion; Ditch the hopper stacks and loop your pipes over. Chances are this type of setup will work without hoppers, as pipes now re-route items when their target inventory is full.

(I think the hopper was designed for the centrifuge;. when you have severel small piles of different bee produce and you don't want to stick them in 1 at a time.)

 

[Myt]

simple question: how many quarrys u have located to it? 1?? isnt a prob try run 4 or like me 20 of em

 

[damnedsky]

Still waiting on those images you promised Myt. I tried my layout with 4 quarries with 2 Forestry electrical on each and everything dumping in a single chest. From that chest I pump with another electrical engine through a stone+gold pipe loop dropping into a recycler with 8 speed overclockers.
The chest is getting very slowly filled up which means another wooden pipe + engine on the same chest would be sufficient.(will provide images later today)
You have given me ideas with Railcraft unloaders but still I am unfamiliar with the Steve's Carts method.

 

[Myt]

my rams crashed on my pc .. need get first some new lol ...
railcraft is great if u using mystcraft since quarrys have they own chunkloaders now its well keeps a lot of up

€:
dont worry u will get some screens, im recreating my machine on my laptop till i get my new ram and my new graca (ya is no need for it but hey they cheap atm switching from gtx280 to gtx650 :d worth it XD)

so since i dont normaly play mc on lapi i takes some time, and atm the ftb launcher has a bug loading mappacks so .. dont log out peeps lol

 

[Celestialphoenix]

simple question: how many quarrys u have located to it? 1?? isnt a prob try run 4 or like me 20 of em

The number of quarries running into it doesnt matter- its more a proof of concept than anything, and its very easily scalable for the crazy amount of quarries you run.

As for dimension jumping your materials; I usually stick to enderchests.
Has anyone tried dropping loose items into a mystcraft portal, and collecting with a redstone engine on an obsidian pipe?