Having a problem with the Quarry.

[Furious1964]

I set the quarry upto a batbox attached to a geothermal generator and lava tanks. When I run it, the thing eats up a load of energy and depletes the lava quickly. Is there a machine to regulate the energy flow from the batbox/generator to more manageable limits?

 

[Mero]

quarry needs buildcraft energy to run. So if you plan on running it on IC energy then you need an electric engine from Forestry to convert it.

 

[Furious1964]

quarry needs buildcraft energy to run. So if you plan on running it on IC energy then you need an electric engine from Forestry to convert it.

Already have that set up too, but still it eats through lava like crazy.

 

[Mero]

I'm sure it will. Electric engines use 6 EU/t and produce 2 MJ/t. Geothermals produce 20 EU/t, 20k per bucket/cell, buckets worth in a tank pumped into a generator thru a pipe. So each lava cell will last you just over 2 minutes of running, around 167 seconds.


Personally, I would run the quarry with 9 peat engines running it. That runs at max speed and 1 peat bog should just produce enough peat to power 1 peat engine running the bog and 9 engines running the quarry.

 

[Furious1964]

I went electrical as there's less chance of exploding stuff. But I would like to still know if there is a device to regulate power.

 

[Meldiron]

Yes there is, but i think it's a bit more expensive then you'd want to use in a settup like this.
It's called the adjustable energystorage unit.

 

[Furious1964]

Yes there is, but i think it's a bit more expensive then you'd want to use in a settup like this.
It's called the adjustable energystorage unit.

HOLY CRAP!!!

What the hell is that thing?

Guess I'm going to have to try solar instead.

 

[Omicron]

Why would you need to regulate power? The geothermal generator regulates power by itself. It produces only as much EU as there is consumption. Once the batbox is full it will only run at 6 EU/t (or more precisely, it will flicker on and off).

The reason you're going through so much lava is simply because the quarry isn't your grandmother's sewing machine, it's a freaking quarry It does awesome things, but it needs a LOT of energy to run. Also, remember that you're not converting EU to MJ on a 1:1 basis, but rather on a 3:1 basis. Three EU for every MJ produced through the electric engine. You can upgrade the electric engine to be more efficient and only need 5 EU/t instead of 6 EU/t, but other than that? More lava. Or switch to Buildcraft power.

I can see that you have little to no experience with Buildcraft power since you're talking about exploding engines. That's a relic of history stemming from old Buildcraft versions on laggy servers used by people who have no idea what chunk loading/unloading is. Yes, combustion engines will explode if not cooled properly; but, for example the FTB pack gives you no less than 9 different other Buildcraft compatible engines to choose from. It also gives you the tools to keep combustion engines perfectly cooled while being immune to lag and chunkloading mechanics.

Here's a really simple upgrade for your current system: use magmatic engines, from Thermal Expansion. In your current setup, you get 6666.67 MJ out of 1 bucket of lava; if you upgraded the electric engine for efficiency, you would get 8,000 MJ per bucket. But if you use magmatic engines, they will give you 18,000 MJ per bucket. And all you need to do is remove the geothermal generator, batbox and electric engine, place a magmatic engine in the spot where the electric engine was, and pump lava from the tanks directly into it. Bonus: it runs twice as fast as the electric engine too, so your quarry will dig twice as fast. And it never explodes either. How's that for an upgrade?

There are ways to get even more out of your lava, but those require building completely new power structures; there are also ways of running very efficiently on other fuels, but then you'd need infrastructure to provide those fuels.

 

[Furious1964]

Why would you need to regulate power? The geothermal generator regulates power by itself. It produces only as much EU as there is consumption. Once the batbox is full it will only run at 6 EU/t (or more precisely, it will flicker on and off).

The reason you're going through so much lava is simply because the quarry isn't your grandmother's sewing machine, it's a freaking quarry It does awesome things, but it needs a LOT of energy to run. Also, remember that you're not converting EU to MJ on a 1:1 basis, but rather on a 3:1 basis. Three EU for every MJ produced through the electric engine. You can upgrade the electric engine to be more efficient and only need 5 EU/t instead of 6 EU/t, but other than that? More lava. Or switch to Buildcraft power.

I can see that you have little to no experience with Buildcraft power since you're talking about exploding engines. That's a relic of history stemming from old Buildcraft versions on laggy servers used by people who have no idea what chunk loading/unloading is. Yes, combustion engines will explode if not cooled properly; but, for example the FTB pack gives you no less than 9 different other Buildcraft compatible engines to choose from. It also gives you the tools to keep combustion engines perfectly cooled while being immune to lag and chunkloading mechanics.

Here's a really simple upgrade for your current system: use magmatic engines, from Thermal Expansion. In your current setup, you get 6666.67 MJ out of 1 bucket of lava; if you upgraded the electric engine for efficiency, you would get 8,000 MJ per bucket. But if you use magmatic engines, they will give you 18,000 MJ per bucket. And all you need to do is remove the geothermal generator, batbox and electric engine, place a magmatic engine in the spot where the electric engine was, and pump lava from the tanks directly into it. Bonus: it runs twice as fast as the electric engine too, so your quarry will dig twice as fast. And it never explodes either. How's that for an upgrade?

There are ways to get even more out of your lava, but those require building completely new power structures; there are also ways of running very efficiently on other fuels, but then you'd need infrastructure to provide those fuels.

Yes, I am totally new to this...have never tried Forge or anything like it before. And Buildcraft/IC2? I was just building machines with regular redstone. But if your suggestion can run the quarry better, then I'll try it. Thanks, man.

 

[b0bst3r]

If you have lava use Thermal Expansions Magmatic engine, it runs solely on lava with no chance of exploding, 2 engines runs a quarry just fine.

 

[Bluehorazon]

Actually the Forestry-engine wastes a lot of EU. It seems to accept pakets as soon as it drops on energy. So if it loses 6 EU/t it will accept a full 32EU paket from a Batbox, a full 128EU paket from a MFE or a 512EU paket from a MFSU. I'm not totally sure if it still behaves that way, but if than thats the reason why it wastes so much energy. A Batbox simply cannot send a 6 EU paket, it needs to send a 32 EU paket every 5 ticks but that would only work if the electric engine has some kind of internal storage, which stores the paket, but it seemed to miss this and might still miss it.

 

[Omicron]

Ow, that would of course kill a lava supply in very short order, and you'd only get some 2000 MJ per bucket. I'll have to test this myself, but if it's true, then one more reason not to use electric engines

 

[Furious1964]

Then I was using the wrong engine and wasting lava/energy. That really sucks, a complete noob mistake since I AM a noob at this. will have to redesign t-up and see what I get.

 

[Furious1964]

How do you turn the engine on? I have it in a test world and it's not working.

NVM, was testing with a macerator instead of a quarry.

 

[Mero]

Actually the Forestry-engine wastes a lot of EU. It seems to accept pakets as soon as it drops on energy. So if it loses 6 EU/t it will accept a full 32EU paket from a Batbox, a full 128EU paket from a MFE or a 512EU paket from a MFSU. I'm not totally sure if it still behaves that way, but if than thats the reason why it wastes so much energy. A Batbox simply cannot send a 6 EU paket, it needs to send a 32 EU paket every 5 ticks but that would only work if the electric engine has some kind of internal storage, which stores the paket, but it seemed to miss this and might still miss it.

Electric engines do store up energy. Right click on the engine and click on the orange tab on the right of the GUI. Not sure on the max amount but they do store excess. Without putting in upgrades though, the quarry will eat everything you throw at it.

How do you turn the engine on? I have it in a test world and it's not working.

Lever

 

[Furious1964]

What fuel does the engine burn? I noticed that when I hooked up the quarry to it, the magmatic engine started pulling cobble from the quarry and burning it.

 

[1ManleyMiner]

One of Joe Hills videos uses Magmatic engines on a quarry. They are FAST too.

At 8:45 he installs the engines.

 

[Omicron]

Errr what? Magmatic engines should only run on lava. Cobblestone should not even be possible to insert, not even with pipes.

Try sharing a screenshot?

 

[dakamojo]

Errr what? Magmatic engines should only run on lava. Cobblestone should not even be possible to insert, not even with pipes.

Try sharing a screenshot?

The quarry will actually put cobble into the input slot of a Magmatic engine if the engine is connected directly to the quarry. Connect the engine to the quarry with a pipe and you don't have to worry about it.

 

[Omicron]

Really? Wow. Naughty quarry