greg tech

[jetflight]

is greg tech (i belive its them) makeing it a bit too hard.

need to make the best blast furnace now to make tungsten ores. for the casing i new chrom, for each chrom i need ruby dust (which i thought thank god u can make out of red stone.

But i need 8000 something ? wtf?
or 800 rubys?

 

[Whovian]

Since when are Rubies required for an Industrial Blast Furnace? I thought you just needed Standard Machine Casing?

 

[Exasperation]

They're talking about upgrading the heat capacity to allow tungsten to be smelted. You only need to make 8 advanced casings to reach that point (well, you only really need 6 for tungsten, but they're made in batches of 4; 8 advanced casings is enough to reach the heat capacity for tungstensteel if you want to). Two batches of advanced casings requires 20 chrome, which takes 180 ruby dust total (unless there's been a massive change I don't know about).

If you use silk touch + industrial grinder, you can get 2.5 ruby dust per ruby ore, so that's only 72 ruby ore if you use it as efficiently as possible (plus you can get some ruby dust from redstone, and there's a way to get chrome from large enough quantities of sphalerite if you use silk touch + industrial grinder on it). Can take a while, but not as hard as you're making it out to be.

 

[Ch1ck3nbutt]

Standard Machine Casing is used for only the low tiered blast furnace recipes. To make tungsten, you need Advanced Machine Casings which need chrome and titanium to make.

 

[GreenWolf13]

Can take a while...

Biggest understatement of the century. Greg's idea of fun is making you grind for hours and hours on end. I mean, that's fun if you're ito MMOs and all that, but I don't want to spend hours grinding in my sandbox game. I want to build, not do thousands of arbitrary tasks over and over again just to get to the point where I can make low tier tech.

 

[noskk]

is greg tech (i belive its them) makeing it a bit too hard.

need to make the best blast furnace now to make tungsten ores. for the casing i new chrom, for each chrom i need ruby dust (which i thought thank god u can make out of red stone.

But i need 8000 something ? wtf?
or 800 rubys?

the best? HELL NO, you only need 2500 K for tungsten ingot, so.... 6 advanced casings+28 reinforced casings+2 lava source in the middle (that's another 500 K).

20 chromes OR 180 ruby dusts OR 30 stacks of redstone dusts OR 3 stacks of redstone ore.. If you do the diamond pickaxe silktouch -> redstone ore+diamond jackhammer it will take around 2-3 hours of branch mining at height 11.

 

[Hydra]

2-3 hours just to make a better furnace? The heck?

 

[noskk]

2-3 hours just to make a better furnace? The heck?

Better than 2-3 hours fooling around in mc chatting without any progress.. and if you have reached that state of wanting to upgrade your i. blast furnace to 2500k you are very near to the end game of GT.. because you also need to provide 256k eu to smelt one tungsten dust, for mid gameplay 1700k is enough (to smelt Al and other).

Ofc you can use those unneeded redstone dust or ruby you get from quarry; 2-3 hours are needed if you start from zero ruby/redstone dust/chrome. Not much.. a full 64x64 quarry usually can provide 20-30 chromes and around 1-2 stacks of titanium.

So.. 10-15 full range quarry will give you enough chrome for fusion reactor, easy right? LOL

 

[ICountFrom0]

2-3 hours just to make a better furnace? The heck?

That's what gregT thinks balance means.

Good news is you only need to do it once.. unless lightning strikes your windmill or something (then it explodes, and sends packets down the line that blows up every machine in your base)

 

[noskk]

Nah, the lightning strike only apply to GT machine exclusively (if it's implemented one day)..beside, the casing is pretty strong at the worst case I can imagine, you will only explode your controller box..

 

[Omicron]

I'm not sure what the big deal is... I earned all the ruby dust I needed simply from centrifuging redstone. I have a dedicated redstone centrifuge that does nothing else, day and night, without pause. I've already gone through more than a barrel full of redstone this way - yes, more than 64 stacks of 64. And I am still mining so much of the stuff that I have to crate some of it in the carpenter to keep it from clogging up my chests. Rubies are probably responsible for less than a quarter of my chrome production nowadays, the rest is all redstone, and there's absolutely no shortage of it. Plus you get iron from the deal, and liquid mercury for your industrial grinder.

I could easily run more than one centrifuge for burst production, but I honestly don't need to. I've had plenty of mining and other things to do while it produced chrome for me. GregTech forces you to take a step back from the instant gratification gameplay style of "okay I want to build this now now now, and if it takes me more than a minute to fetch the resources and put it into my crafting table it needs to be made cheaper!" and instead asks you to plan ahead and work in parallel. Upgrading your blast furnace is something you do at the same time as working on setting up enough energy supply for your ridiculously hungry matter fabricator, at the same time as mining for emeralds in order to build iridium neutron reflectors for your reactor, at the same time as fencing in, lighting up and expanding a NPC village in order to create more trade opportunities for extra emeralds, at the same time as looking for sheldonite ore in The End to supplement your platinum and iridium stocks, at the same time as running a quarry in the nearby forest so you can have enough bauxite to keep electrolyzing to keep generating hydrogen cells to turn into methane to keep your steam boiler fueled that's running a steam turbine for more EU, and so on and so forth.

It's not really hard. It's just a different approach to playing the game. This approach may not be everyone's cup of tea, and for those people, the DW20 pack exists which ships with Equivalent Exchange instead of GregTech.

 

[Democretes]

If you're making tungsten because you really need it, you're probably making a fusion reactor or an industrial grinder, which are the only two real uses for tungsten. If you're quarries haven't turned up enough rubies(which are everywhere because of redpower) by the time you reach this point, then you're either A) Not using quarries too much or B) Just want the two blocks for fun. There's not too much point to the industrial grinder. Most of the recipes don't give you much more produce than just using a macerator. It is more trouble than its worth. The fusion reactor on the other hand, is an endgame item. It doesn't have any requirements nor is it particularly useful to fullfill any kind of requirement for other machines as far as power goes.

And if you need the tungsten for the 4 energy circuit recipe, the altenate platinum recipes is arguable cheaper.

 

[Hydra]

That's what gregT thinks balance means.

Good news is you only need to do it once.. unless lightning strikes your windmill or something (then it explodes, and sends packets down the line that blows up every machine in your base)

Good news is that I will never ever have to do that because I will not waste my time building that kind of stuff. I like a good mix of technology and building pretty buildings. My current project for example is to build a bar with fully automated mead production including bottling and a system where people can 'pay' for booze. Setting up such a system takes a long time too but doesn't result in me upgrading just a single block.

Don't get me wrong: to each his own. If you enjoy that kind of 'grinding' then have fun with GregTech. But I probably will never understand what the fun in that is.

 

[Hrulgin]

I find it satisfying to play with GregTech because it does give new things to explore and new things to upgrade for a long time to come. From my opinion it's not something to power through, but something to sink extra materials into when I'm building up a bunch of them.