Good vs. Evil

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lenscas

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58 So do exact matching? Unless there are too many too easily implement.
59 php actually has a function build in to get what a browser is capable of doing. It just requires you to load a file into memory for each request.
Not a problem, except that this file is 416254 lines long. Also, this only shows if the browser can use JS, not what functions/keywords/whatever the JS interpreter is exactly capable of doing.
(Also, I am not worried about IE in particular, I just happen to know that its incapable of doing some JS stuff that I want but any browser with JS disabled and/or not able to run the JS is a problem. )
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Fun fact: I've yet to find JS related things on this site that actually work on Opera Mini. Apparently this is caused by opera mini doing everything on a server rather than on your mobile which prevents JS from working correctly. Yet, 2.81% of people use this, thing. (I don't want to call it a browser because it apparently never touches html....)
 

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60 Why is Chrome for Android better that Straight Chrome?

Also, where's Tor? (although I think I know the answer for this question)
 

lenscas

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60 Why is Chrome for Android better that Straight Chrome?

Also, where's Tor? (although I think I know the answer for this question)
61 the numbers refer to the version, the height to how many people are using it. So, if chrome for android is bigger, it means that more people are using that then regular chrome.
As for why the tor browser isn't mentioned can be either because not enough people are actually using it to be worth wile to be shown and/or because it is pretty much firefox. (firefox esr to be exact)
 

lenscas

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62 So, no issues about actually getting the information that they're using Tor?
63 depends on how canIuse gets it data.
Also, for those that use Tor to stop being tracked, stop. Tor is not enough
https://amiunique.org
Even when using Tor there may very well be enough differences between you and someone else and thus you can probably still be tracked.
In my case, the amount of plugins that I have is the problem (or rather the lack of them).

On a funnier note: Someone who worked for microsoft was giving a presentation about something that needed a browser. Naturally he was using edge to do so. Until this guy had enough of Edge and installed chrome DURING the presentation
https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2017/10/30/microsoft-engineer-chrome-edge-google/

Another fun thing, Trident (the html renderer used by IE which was also used as basis for EdgeHTML) was apparently so bad that back when IE for MAC was still a thing this IE version actually used another html renderer.
 

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63 depends on how canIuse gets it data.
On a funnier note: Someone who worked for microsoft was giving a presentation about something that needed a browser. Naturally he was using edge to do so. Until this guy had enough of Edge and installed chrome DURING the presentation
https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2017/10/30/microsoft-engineer-chrome-edge-google/
62 Brings to mind the joke about the print spooler in windows. "It's over a million lines long and 20 years old and arguably contains eldritch incantations. Nobody at MS knows how it works either."
 
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lenscas

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63 so... remember that site that I need to use to do my development stuff in for school?

It becomes even worse.... (yes, they managed to somehow do this)

One of the teachers said that I should be using chrome as that is what they test it for. I decided fair enough but me being me and having an absolute hate towards chrome decided to install chromium. Chromium being an opensource browser that google makes and uses to build chrome on top of this shouldn't be an issue.

Well.... even scrolling is broken there >_>
Unless massive delays and stutter while scrolling doesn't mean its broken of course.

Now, me being kind stunned by this I decided to try out firefox again. However, not just any firefox but the dev version, because this should be multi-threaded and a lot faster than the normal firefox.

Surprise, scrolling now works. Except that there is now an annoying popup (actually, its worse they where lazy and just made a call to the alert function) about this browser not being supported and that I should use chrome. >_<

So... the only browser that is somewhat capable of working with that broken shit of a site is apparently "unsupported".

You know what F$%@ them. Here is the link to it https://grandeomega.com . AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS!

(Also, they somehow managed to make two scrollbars appear on one page, one however is empty so they deliberately set in the style that no matter what there should be a scrollbar there.Instead of setting it to auto and let the browser decide if one is needed. )

edit: decided to give them the benefit of the doubt and install chrome,result: still garbage.
In other news, after I tried to submit my answer using firefox-dev they managed to make a message pop-up about a script slowing my browser down (I only had that message before while running a benchmark) and when I clicked debug I discovered that the site dumped 3MB of strings inside RAM. 3MB!!
 
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lenscas

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64 (A stack!) Absolutely brutal. Savage levels 420%

Also, the website works for me... but I'm on Chrome, so what I say is irrelevant :/
65 you can't login so you are spared from the true horror.

Also, it may be very hardware dependent. Like I said, scrolling works fine in the new firefox (57+) which is massively optimized so I wouldn't be surprised that if you throw enough hardware at it it will eventually work (at least somewhat).

The problem is that we all use laptops which don't exactly are known for having the greatest of clock speeds.

The slowing down notification is just firefox detecting something is stuck in an infinite loop or doing other retarded stuff.
 

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66. So the closest thing I have to a friend at work answered my call for help in looking for ideas of what else to bake; in my hour of need she was there! The only reason I don't just call her a friend is that we only interact at work; we don't just talk about work stuff, but we do only talk at work itself.
 

lenscas

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67 so... the good news,
I think I can get IE support working.
The bad news : I need to change every link due to IE being IE >_<
(this also means that now every single page needs to have some php processing done first before it can be send to the client >_< Thanks IE! Very appreciated >_<)

edit: you know.... brainfuck uses the ">" character. You know what else uses that character? HTML. Guess what IE is complaining about......

It sees the "<" character in the example brainfuck code and complains because it isn't part of a valid html tag >_>

Also, thanks to IE being IE I need to think of another way to nicely display the warning about WASM not being supported by your browser when you visit the brainfuck page (with IE)
 
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