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Bigglesworth

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They move. Block breakers break blocks. They move the block breakers again. You have a item counter/location signal setup that says "HEY EVERY X BLOCKS WE R GONNA GO DOWN 1 AND THEN REVERSE DIRECTION KK? LOLZ!" repeat.
 
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Chocorate

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Frame quarries use inchworm drives, frames, covers, motors, and often computers. They're very complicated.
 

Chocorate

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The SMP bore he does uses a mining well. It's a new, and amazing way to do it, but it's going to be patched soon.

4th season was really his best bore.

Course, if you find his flying nuke dropper from the other season, same lessons there too.
There's also a really nice one he built on SMP with Soaryn that places torches and uses xychorium water to dry up lava pools as it passes by. This is what I'll be making all day tomorrow when I finally try my hand at RP2. It's like a car with a bunch of cigarette lighter accessories. xD
 

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The SMP bore he does uses a mining well. It's a new, and amazing way to do it, but it's going to be patched soon.

4th season was really his best bore.

Course, if you find his flying nuke dropper from the other season, same lessons there too.
How will it be patched?
 

NJM1564

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The SMP bore he does uses a mining well. It's a new, and amazing way to do it, but it's going to be patched soon.

4th season was really his best bore.

Course, if you find his flying nuke dropper from the other season, same lessons there too.

Direwolf20 said the mod maker would it would probably be patch it soon. But there is no information as to that from the mod's maker him self yet.
 

brujon

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He didn't say that there were any patches planned, he said that what he came up with would probably wind up making the mod author to nerf that specific type of abuse, maybe limiting the amount of operations that a Mining Well can make in a given amount of time to something not quite so crazy as 1 mine per tick. You know, so that they don't dig down from 80 to 0 in 4 seconds. It might end up not even being changed. Look at the resource expenditure to make that thing, it's pretty far in the game before you can do it like DW20 did.
 
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He didn't say that there were any patches planned, he said that what he came up with would probably wind up making the mod author to nerf that specific type of abuse, maybe limiting the amount of operations that a Mining Well can make in a given amount of time to something not quite so crazy as 1 mine per tick. You know, so that they don't dig down from 80 to 0 in 4 seconds. It might end up not even being changed. Look at the resource expenditure to make that thing, it's pretty far in the game before you can do it like DW20 did.

Resource wise? Thats some iron and wood there is nothing expensive about making it, aside from the frame holding everything considering what It can do any how fast it needs a nerf of some kind. Start off with 1-3 expand as you go.[DOUBLEPOST=1364464666][/DOUBLEPOST]
Dire does like finding things that fit together in ways that are too epic to live.
Not to bump off the DW train but his idea is nothing new, the design is years old just problem moving the pipe with frames stopped most people from using it.
 

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...maybe limiting the amount of operations that a Mining Well can make in a given amount of time to something not quite so crazy as 1 mine per tick...
Yeah, throttling it so it can only accept a modest number of MJ/T would help - but if they get slowed down by 4x then you'd just have to make your frame machine 4x as big! You could cut down on the number of turtles by having one turtle run backwards placing quarries in front of it, and another that picks them up again when they're done, it's just the enderchests that you'd need a lot of, I can't see a way of reducing that. You could just have a line of regular chests or iron chests and use one or more Routers to empty them out into an Enderchest.
 

brujon

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Yes, there are solutions if it's nerfed. There always will be. The thing is, will this make other setups more efficient, considering the cost to setup, time between the dig, the break, the move, and the redeploy? Maybe, maybe not. Also the fact that it requires coding so that's not going to go well with a lot of people that don't want to tweak the code DW20 provided... And if they do code, possibly just having 20 or 30 turtles doing smart quarries at once would give more income. In fact there are programs available for pastebin for that too. There's the issue of crafting a ton of ender chests, one for each turtle, but it's manageable. And there's a new approach to the issue that might solve that, that is the Swarm mining program. We'll have to see, this will keep improving.
 

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The main problem with turtles taking a more active role in the quarry is the unloading problem, when you quit the game the turtles reboot and forget everything. You could make sure you flip the switch to turn it off before logging out or shutting down the server, and you could rig up a light that goes out when it's finished a cycle to make sure. Or, the turtles could communicate their state to a Redpower CPU which could then tell them where they are and what to do next. Hm, that's a nice idea, I might use that in another context. Don't try to make the turtle remember where it is... make them tell the RPCPU "About to move forwards", "Finished moving forwards", and there you have turtle persistence! You'd need the turtle to modem to a Computercraft CPU, which then talks to the RPCPU via bundled cable.

Actually persistence is a problem with DW20's set up. I wonder if a future episode will begin with "So, that frame quarry got stuck half way through a cycle when I logged out..."
 

Syrinori

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The SMP bore he does uses a mining well. It's a new, and amazing way to do it, but it's going to be patched soon.

4th season was really his best bore.

Course, if you find his flying nuke dropper from the other season, same lessons there too.
Do believe in the latest forgecraft video cpw (I think thats who does bc) said they wouldnt be nerfing mining wells. Might actually make it so they work on frames. (And dear god is that glorious in an overpowered but I so want to abuse it kinda way. Be back in 15 after I change my pants.)
 
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CrazyCoco

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Now I just have to find a way to use it that lets me cut out the turtles, and possibly uses some sort of pump to clear the liquids.

I've got ideas, see?
I've got a method going right now without Computercraft! However I am running into issues with my setup...if you think you could help do look at this album: http://imgur.com/a/lQgaf
I've been working on it all night!