Frame motor help

[joseff amador]

Ugh, yes, another "help with my frame motors" thread.

This one is driving me crazy. First, the pics:

http://imgur.com/ob2TA,hjVKB#1

In this pic, the small rectangle platform is moving just fine in one direction (left). But when I add the exact same pair of motors to move the platform right..

http://imgur.com/ob2TA,hjVKB#0

It doesn't work anymore.

When i add the two right-most frame motors, I still cannot activate the left lever to move the overall platform that the left-most pair of engines was previously moving without problems.

It's almost like the left motor (which moves the platform left) is unable to move the right motor (the one in the right-most pair in the picture).

However, I thought frames, when moved, would also move any attached frame motors? Will frames not move motors that have the arrow face touching the frame contraption?

*edit* I have confirmed from testing that a frame motor will not move another, second frame motor if the 2nd motor's "arrow face" is touching the frame construction. However, I didn't think this was the case as in 1.2.5 I built a similar contraption. Anyone know if the way frame motors work changed?


*edit* ignore the 2x2 square of smooth stone covers. I took those out after the screenshot, and the problem persists.

 

[tedyhere]

looks to me like the red alloy wires and lever on the left motor would gum up the whole works as the right side motor engaged it wouldn't be able to move the frame since the left side motor is stopped by the alloy wire.

 

[joseff amador]

looks to me like the red alloy wires and lever on the left motor would gum up the whole works as the right side motor engaged it wouldn't be able to move the frame since the left side motor is stopped by the alloy wire.

Actually i can't even activate the left side motor. My problem is, the left motor works fine, that is, until i add the right motor. It's like the left motor can't move the right motor.

 

[Abdiel]

Yes, a frame motor will not be moved by a frame attached to its "arrow" side. If you want to move it, you will need to add a frame attaching to the motor from another side.

 

[Saice]

I suck at frame machines. I bairly got one working once. So I don't have much to add. Just a genral Noob gotcha that I think others trying to do frames might want to know.

Covers vs Panels.

Covers dont stick to things and Panels do. So if you want something to slide it most likely needs a Cover and if you want something to stick (like wires) you need a Panel. This includes Motors a Panel can stop a Frame motor from silding the frame if you have it in the wrong place.

Don't think it has anything to do with your problem. But with your title I'm sure others looking to figure on frames might pop in hoping for advice they could use.

 

[joseff amador]

Yes, a frame motor will not be moved by a frame attached to its "arrow" side. If you want to move it, you will need to add a frame attaching to the motor from another side.

Was it always like this? Because in 1.2.5 I built a moving platform that could move all 6 directions (up down left right forward backward) by a series of "inchworm" drives, and obviously, every single inchworm drive has an arrow face that is touching the whole frame contraption.

I will try using a frame touching the motor from another side. Thanks.

 

[Abdiel]

It was always like this. Otherwise even the simplest machines wouldn't work. (Imagine a sliding door with two motors, each pushing to one side.)

 

[Stuwik]

The motors to the right look like they aren't powered first of all. I would also agree with Abdiel on the left not moving either when adding the right motors; the right motor facing down want to stay, and as a result blocks the yellow wire from moving. If you were to remove all the wires and simply add buttons or levers to the motors (for testing and debugging) you would see if this is correct.

 

[DVeagle74]

Remove the covers under the downfacing motors. Just the one under each motor in the pictures you posted. The covers prevent the frames from moving things, including the motors. They don't move and the wires can't move through them.