Passive mobs should spawn, I've found sheep, pigs and cows for certain, maybe some chickens (don't remember). Squid won't spawn without some effort, since they need water source blocks at y ~ 45-62. So you'll have to build an elevated pool for them to spawn at all.
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well guys i am using mindcrack with no added mods and having a hard time wiht the copper and tin, silver and other metals and things you find underground, so i thought there is a way in the config of the flat world when you create the world to add some modifications to the world gen, is there a way to make it like some caves or maybe i dont know something to make it possible to aquire (to make it clear i am not saying to make it easy like vanilla just to allow us to aquire some things that at the moment are impossible).
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Copper, Tin, Thaumium and Steel are metals I have found in Blacksmith/Thaumcraft chests in villages. You might have to visit many villages though to find all of them in sufficient quantities. Another route would be Thaumcraft transmutes, although you'll need to trade for some shards to make a wand in the first place and the only way to get paper seems to be from scrapboxes.
I think that I may have found a way for you to get glass other than a macerator.
Industrial Centrifuge
If you centrifuge dirt you get....SAND! Among other things. Of course this would only be an option if you can find the lapis for the advanced circuits, but you would need that anyway for the macerator. It would also require a compressor and rolling machine to make the advanced machine blocks. Guess that it just depends on whether you find diamonds or not.
As for paper, any luck using bone meal on dirt or sand near a water block? If not, use the above idea to get glass and then build a sawmill or pulverizer. Get pulp or chips and make paper.
Industrial Centrifuge
If you centrifuge dirt you get....SAND! Among other things. Of course this would only be an option if you can find the lapis for the advanced circuits, but you would need that anyway for the macerator. It would also require a compressor and rolling machine to make the advanced machine blocks. Guess that it just depends on whether you find diamonds or not.
As for paper, any luck using bone meal on dirt or sand near a water block? If not, use the above idea to get glass and then build a sawmill or pulverizer. Get pulp or chips and make paper.
Thx for the suggestion, TigersFangs. I think I'll build a sawmill very soon. I did manage to trade some glass from a villager (ran around many villages trying to find one that would give me that option, only to come back empty handed to my base and find a newly born one that opened it up after a few other trades). So by now I have a Pulverizer and can make as much glass as I want
The Industrial Centrifuge is also on the plan, but I have to get enough coal to make the Advanced Machine Blocks first. I guess wither skeletons are my best bet there. Since I found a few diamonds by now, I'm debating whether I should use one to make soulshards. Having a blazespawner for fuel or the wither skeletons for coal, bones and arrows would be nice. I also have a bunch of steel (as in several blocks and a few stacks of ingots as well as many tools), so I could maybe build a Steam Boiler next. Has to be a liquid fueled one though, because the solid fuel fireboxes need brick. Most things can be gotten from the Industrial Centrifuge, it seems, which leads me back to my need for coal. Funny how very basic ressources become bottlenecks in a Flat map while higher end stuff like steel is available in abundance
As far as my progress apart from that goes: I've built a full enchanting room and got me a cool Thaumium Shovel and Pick (anyone know if you can get the Repair Enchant on a book? I'd like to put that on both so they don't run out). Also build animal pens for my lonely chicken and many cows, including a feedstation for the cow. And I started on a 3 deep perimeter filled with water to cull the slimes that congregate at my base. The noise and lag has become so unbearable that I occasionally switched to peaceful for a moment to cull them. The original post contains a link to my imgur album which is updated as I go along btw
The Industrial Centrifuge is also on the plan, but I have to get enough coal to make the Advanced Machine Blocks first. I guess wither skeletons are my best bet there. Since I found a few diamonds by now, I'm debating whether I should use one to make soulshards. Having a blazespawner for fuel or the wither skeletons for coal, bones and arrows would be nice. I also have a bunch of steel (as in several blocks and a few stacks of ingots as well as many tools), so I could maybe build a Steam Boiler next. Has to be a liquid fueled one though, because the solid fuel fireboxes need brick. Most things can be gotten from the Industrial Centrifuge, it seems, which leads me back to my need for coal. Funny how very basic ressources become bottlenecks in a Flat map while higher end stuff like steel is available in abundance
As far as my progress apart from that goes: I've built a full enchanting room and got me a cool Thaumium Shovel and Pick (anyone know if you can get the Repair Enchant on a book? I'd like to put that on both so they don't run out). Also build animal pens for my lonely chicken and many cows, including a feedstation for the cow. And I started on a 3 deep perimeter filled with water to cull the slimes that congregate at my base. The noise and lag has become so unbearable that I occasionally switched to peaceful for a moment to cull them. The original post contains a link to my imgur album which is updated as I go along btw
Okay, I can't seem to find a way to get Rocky Bees, so I can't breed Metal-giving Bees. So here's the extremely roundabout way I've determined to get decent amounts of tin.
1) Wander the world gathering the resources you need to get a Recycler set up and powered. Including Copper and Tin. This'll take a while.
2) Get paper from this Recycler, you won't get much of it. Be patient.
3) Start researching. Transmute. Repeat.
1) Wander the world gathering the resources you need to get a Recycler set up and powered. Including Copper and Tin. This'll take a while.
2) Get paper from this Recycler, you won't get much of it. Be patient.
3) Start researching. Transmute. Repeat.
Rocky bees are found underground, usually surrounded in stone.
You can find them either in cave walls, of while mining (branch, quarry ...)
I don't know how it goes for flat worlds though, but it should be the same.
You can find them either in cave walls, of while mining (branch, quarry ...)
I don't know how it goes for flat worlds though, but it should be the same.
Err, isn't it possible to make superflat with all the features you want with the filter thing?
I never made one, so it might not be correct, but I am sure I saw something about that in a snapshot showcase some time ago (like, monthes ago).
I never made one, so it might not be correct, but I am sure I saw something about that in a snapshot showcase some time ago (like, monthes ago).
It is indeed possible to customize the flatland maps by specifiying layers of different materials by block id. So it's entirely feasible to make a world that's 64 layers of diamond blocks for example. But the challenge is to see what you can do with a "classic" flatland map. Transmuting the necessary metals is probably one way to do it (and I have done it in small quantities), provided you can find renewable sources for the necessary aspects. Centrifuging Lava is another way to get some materials, namely copper, tin, electrum and tungsten, some of which can be further refined into other materials. It 's probably not possible to reach every goal that can be achieved on a normal map, but the purpose of this is to see what can be done and in what different ways things can be achieved.
PS: It's probably a good idea to automate scrap production as soon as possible. With a cobblegen and blockbreaker on top of your recycler, you'll take much of the manual effort out of it, leaving you time to do other things.
PS: It's probably a good idea to automate scrap production as soon as possible. With a cobblegen and blockbreaker on top of your recycler, you'll take much of the manual effort out of it, leaving you time to do other things.
This would have to wait till you got the Centrifuge running, but you can get clay I believe by centrifuging dirt.
As for the repair enchant...I know nothing about it and have never gotten it. Is it TC3?
As for the repair enchant...I know nothing about it and have never gotten it. Is it TC3?
Made a big tour through the nether today. Now I have a T5 Blaze spawner setup and should no longer lack energy for my recyclers. Also started a Whither Skelly shard for coal, but filling that one is gonna be a pain, especially since they're bugged atm and become normal skelly shards if you put them into a soul cage and take them back out. Looks like I'll have to get it up to T5 before I can use it at all. The third shard was used on Zombie Pigmen for gold, but farming them also takes quite a lot of time. I'm up to 7 coal from Whither Skeletons, any idea if there's a better source for it? I think I need half a stack to make the Advanced machine blocks for the centrifuge.
Yep, that's currently possible, but I still seem to think "bedrock, 2 dirt, and grass" when I think "superflat."
Anyway, can you find Rocky Bees in Village Hives or trade for them with the Beekeeping Villagers?
I haven't found any rocky bees yet, but since I fired up my lava centrifuging, I don't think I'll need them. It gives access to most metals although some need a lot of refining (e.g. Electrum -> Gold/Silver; Silver -> Lead) So far I have made Iron, Steel, Tungsten, Copper, Tin, Nickel, Bronze, Silver, Gold and Lead renewable. I also got a tiny pile of platinum dust from a scrap box, so even Iridium isn't out of reach, although it will take a huge amount of time to get even a single piece of iridium. Advanced Circuits are a bit tedious since you need Lazurite Dust for them (no way to get Lapis). Currently, I'm working on compact and fast Scrap-producers to bump up the production of stuff that can't be manufactured directly. Looks like 5 Igneous Extruders making cobble which are turned into halfslabs can keep a fully upgraded recycler busy. This setup would produce about 2.8 scrap boxes per minute. The recycler takes 109 EU/t though, so I'll have to increase my powerproduction quite a bit. The blaze spawner can supposedly fuel 2 36HP and 1 36LP boiler, which would net a total of 360 MJ/t or up to 540 EU/t via GT Geothermal Generators.
fun fact: tiny pile of platinum dust seems to have a 0.09% chance to drop from a scrapbox, leading to about one iridium per 35555 scrapboxes. If I'm not wrong, the Matterfabricater needs 8 Iridium, which would take a measly 70.5 real life days with one full speed recycler
There's two things atm, that I can't find a way to make: Nikkolite and green dye. Nikkolite would obviously be necessary to get into higher tier RP2 machinery and green dye seems to be the only way to get cyan dye to make an omniwrench. Both aren't necessary, but would be very convenient
current machine setup:
fun fact: tiny pile of platinum dust seems to have a 0.09% chance to drop from a scrapbox, leading to about one iridium per 35555 scrapboxes. If I'm not wrong, the Matterfabricater needs 8 Iridium, which would take a measly 70.5 real life days with one full speed recycler
There's two things atm, that I can't find a way to make: Nikkolite and green dye. Nikkolite would obviously be necessary to get into higher tier RP2 machinery and green dye seems to be the only way to get cyan dye to make an omniwrench. Both aren't necessary, but would be very convenient
current machine setup:
My NEI tells me that there's a "forest comb" which you can centrifuge for a "forest drop". It's a stand-in for green dye.
No idea where to get one though.
No idea where to get one though
.Suggestion for Rocky bees: Create a smooth stone "block" several blocks wide long and tall, and wait. Then build a second one with 1 space air blocks mixed in. If bee spawning works like surface bees, some should spawn...eventually. in one or the other setup.
Note, I don't know it will work, but its got potential.
Note, I don't know it will work, but its got potential.
Thx man If you don't already, you should check out the imgur link in the origional post. I occasionally update the album with progress. As for the challenge itself, I usually try to automate stuff in a way that requires no outside input in normal FTB anyway, so I thought why not take it to the next level.
By the way, my most "hated" item so far: simple Re-Batteries. There's two recipes for them, either with redstone (16 Netherrack Dust centrifuge in 1 Redstone and some byproducts) or with lead and sulfur. The latter one gives you two batteries for your trouble, but lead is quite some trouble indeed: 8 silver dust centrifuge into 1 lead dust, to get the silver, you'll need to pulverize and centrifuge 16 Electrum which you can get by centrifuging 3x64 Lava. Total time: a good hour
If you don't already, you should check out the imgur link in the origional post. I occasionally update the album with progress. As for the challenge itself, I usually try to automate stuff in a way that requires no outside input in normal FTB anyway, so I thought why not take it to the next level.By the way, my most "hated" item so far: simple Re-Batteries. There's two recipes for them, either with redstone (16 Netherrack Dust centrifuge in 1 Redstone and some byproducts) or with lead and sulfur. The latter one gives you two batteries for your trouble, but lead is quite some trouble indeed: 8 silver dust centrifuge into 1 lead dust, to get the silver, you'll need to pulverize and centrifuge 16 Electrum which you can get by centrifuging 3x64 Lava. Total time: a good hour