Does CoFH Ore Generation mess with Saltpeter?

[Siigari]

In a desert. Can't find saltpeter.

I feel like I'm missing some sort of huge circlejerk or something the way everyone blows through Minecraft and I just sort of go one mod at a time.

edit: No, I am not looking for the fast way via Sandstone. I'm looking for the blocks. I want to find one of the spawners

 

[asb3pe]

I gave up trying to find Saltpeter Ore in Infinity modpack. So I used the alternate method - I actually needed Thermal Expansion Niter (so I can make Gelid Cryotheum), but I believe Railcraft Saltpeter is an equivalent to Niter. (that may or may not be correct, I don't know for sure)

The alternate method is to TE Pulverize cobble into sand, then combine 2 sand into 1 sandstone using a TE Cyclic Assembler, then TE Pulverize the sandstone into sand with a secondary byproduct of Niter. Use the TE augments for each machine, and set them up in a row to process your cobble automatically - within hours, I had over 6000 Niter using this method and the augments that provide a higher percentage of secondary products.

Aha, sorry, I see your edit. Oh well, I tried. In Infinity, on an SMP server, I had a heck of a time just finding a Desert biome, never mind finding Saltpeter in a Desert. I collected all my Saltpeter Ore from the Nether, where it seems much more plentiful because it isn't restricted to a single biome in the Nether. But I know that doesn't help you either. Good luck.

Which modpack are you playing, by the way? If it is Infinty I will load up my game and fly around the desert to see if I can find any Saltpeter Ore - at least you'd know if CoFH messed up the oregen or not, if I can find some.

 

[Siigari]

I gave up trying to find Saltpeter Ore in Infinity modpack. So I used the alternate method - I actually needed Thermal Expansion Niter (so I can make Gelid Cryotheum), but I believe Railcraft Saltpeter is an equivalent to Niter. (that may or may not be correct, I don't know for sure)

The alternate method is to TE Pulverize cobble into sand, then combine 2 sand into 1 sandstone using a TE Cyclic Assembler, then TE Pulverize the sandstone into sand with a secondary byproduct of Niter. Use the TE augments for each machine, and set them up in a row to process your cobble automatically - within hours, I had over 6000 Niter using this method and the augments that provide a higher percentage of secondary products.

Aha, sorry, I see your edit. Oh well, I tried. In Infinity, on an SMP server, I had a heck of a time just finding a Desert biome, never mind finding Saltpeter in a Desert. I collected all my Saltpeter Ore from the Nether, where it seems much more plentiful because it isn't restricted to a single biome in the Nether. But I know that doesn't help you either. Good luck.

Yeah, after much searching I found my old TPPI Niter maker.

 

[Siigari]

I gave up trying to find Saltpeter Ore in Infinity modpack. So I used the alternate method - I actually needed Thermal Expansion Niter (so I can make Gelid Cryotheum), but I believe Railcraft Saltpeter is an equivalent to Niter. (that may or may not be correct, I don't know for sure)

The alternate method is to TE Pulverize cobble into sand, then combine 2 sand into 1 sandstone using a TE Cyclic Assembler, then TE Pulverize the sandstone into sand with a secondary byproduct of Niter. Use the TE augments for each machine, and set them up in a row to process your cobble automatically - within hours, I had over 6000 Niter using this method and the augments that provide a higher percentage of secondary products.

Aha, sorry, I see your edit. Oh well, I tried. In Infinity, on an SMP server, I had a heck of a time just finding a Desert biome, never mind finding Saltpeter in a Desert. I collected all my Saltpeter Ore from the Nether, where it seems much more plentiful because it isn't restricted to a single biome in the Nether. But I know that doesn't help you either. Good luck.

Which modpack are you playing, by the way? If it is Infinty I will load up my game and fly around the desert to see if I can find any Saltpeter Ore - at least you'd know if CoFH messed up the oregen or not, if I can find some.

Infinity mostly, with some addons.

 

[asb3pe]

Well I see what you mean, I just went ahead and flew the only desert biome I've discovered (it's actually a huge area) and unless I missed it, I found zero Saltpeter Ore blocks. Not one.

 

[epidemia78]

Havent seen that stuff since 1.6.4

 

[Infusionzzz]

To get niter the best way is to put sand in a sag mill with some flint

 

[MacAisling]

Saltpeter is generating in the DW20 for 1.7.10 pack, so I'd say don't give up after only 1 desert.

 

[PierceSG]

Probably need to check the config files? Maybe the pack makers has it disabled?

 

[Someone Else 37]

Note that RC saltpeter spawns right below the top layer of sand, not anywhere underground, and only respawns when there's at least three layers of sand on the surface. All I know about the saltpeter ore spawner is that when I last saw it in NEI, it had a bedrock texture, so I would guess that it generates somewhere within the bedrock and is probably impossible to mine or otherwise transport anywhere.

The only place I've ever seen saltpeter was on the side of a desert hill where the second layer of sand was exposed.

 

[asb3pe]

Note that RC saltpeter spawns right below the top layer of sand, not anywhere underground, and only respawns when there's at least three layers of sand on the surface. All I know about the saltpeter ore spawner is that when I last saw it in NEI, it had a bedrock texture, so I would guess that it generates somewhere within the bedrock and is probably impossible to mine or otherwise transport anywhere.

The only place I've ever seen saltpeter was on the side of a desert hill where the second layer of sand was exposed.

Thanks for the info. Awful mechanic to bury it. What are people supposed to do, excavate the top layer of sand over thousands of chunks? That's how big the desert biome is in my SMP world - many thousands of chunks. RIdiculous. But then again, I have no need for Saltpeter but some people like OP apparently do. Railcraft fans probably have a need.

To get niter the best way is to put sand in a sag mill with some flint

Thanks for that info, I'm wondering why I didn't see this in NEI, but I probably just missed it. Another example of one mod's method (EnderIO) making another mod's method (Thermal Expansion) look silly. With TE you have to build a little machine network to get Niter, but along comes EnderIO with a one-block solution. This kinda thing is gonna kill the fun of modded Minecraft IMO. EnderIO sagmill also gives 4 quartz per Nether Quartz Ore block in Infinity modpack... TE pulverizer only gives 2 quartz. It seems as if EnderIO is trying to under-cut Thermal Expansion every step of the way - same with it's fancy schmancy conduits. Mod Wars. Hate it.

 

[PierceSG]

I thought sand in sag mill produces silicon for Ender IO's own use?

IIRC, 50% chance of getting a silicon for each sand. While clay blocks have a 80% chance of getting you a silicon and gives you back two balls of clay.

Edit: And yup, my memory serves me right.

 

[MacAisling]

I think railcraft only uses it to make gunpowder. I'll have to check NEI later.

 

[Infusionzzz]

I thought sand in sag mill produces silicon for Ender IO's own use?

IIRC, 50% chance of getting a silicon for each sand. While clay blocks have a 80% chance of getting you a silicon and gives you back two balls of clay.

Edit: And yup, my memory serves me right.

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Yes it does produce silicon sorry it sandstone that produces it

 

[asb3pe]

Yes it does produce silicon sorry it sandstone that produces it

Thanks for correcting. My rant can be ignored, because the two methods for making Thermal Expansion Niter are now identical. I overreacted, what a shocker. LOL

 

[SparkySam]

Yeah, after much searching I found my old TPPI Niter maker.

what's the block above the pulverizer?? that i creating the cobble?