Can't Power Pulverizer? (Feed the Beast Horizons)

[KaoticSoulz]

So, I just got to the point where better ore processing is a must, but the problem is, as I"m playing horizons, I have no clue how to power a pulverizer. My main goal is to make an iron crusher from Metallurgy, but it requires bronze, which needs as far as I can tell, pulverized tin and copper, which requires a pulverizer. As there is no buildcraft nor any engines in FTB Horizons as far as I can tell, how would I go about powering a pulverizer?

EDIT: Alright, I suppose for the crusher I could use tinkerer's construct bronze, but I really don't feel like hunting for gravel and clay to make grout as it is.

 

[Tristam Izumi]

Thermal Expansion is now powered by Dynamos, which produce Redstone Flux (RF) now instead of Buildcraft's MJ. They do not accept any form of MJ power, just RF.

Also, you can use Metallurgy's crusher (stone works) to crush the tin and copper ore, and then mix those by hand to make the bronze.

 

[Bomb Bloke]

It may be that there's a different kind of bronze available - haven't played that pack so I'm unsure, but it took me at least a couple of goes via NEI in Direwolf to find what I wanted. Try crafting tin and copper ingots like so:

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[MigukNamja]

Use copper to make one(1) TE3 Steam Dynamo. It will require mainly copper and not bronze. You can attach the Steam Dynamo directly to the Pulverizer and feed the Steam Dynamo (char)coal and water. The preferred water source is a TE3 Aqueous Accumulator.[DOUBLEPOST=1390523736][/DOUBLEPOST]

It may be that there's a different kind of bronze available - haven't played that pack so I'm unsure, but it took me at least a couple of goes via NEI in Direwolf to find what I wanted. Try crafting tin and copper ingots like so:

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That's from Forestry, which is (un ?)fortunately not in Horizons.

 

[KaoticSoulz]

Alright, thanks all! Was really confused there for a while. Just a sidenote, does anyone know which is more efficient out of the steel crusher from metallurgy, or the pulverizer from Thermal Expansion?

 

[Tristam Izumi]

Alright, thanks all! Was really confused there for a while. Just a sidenote, does anyone know which is more efficient out of the steel crusher from metallurgy, or the pulverizer from Thermal Expansion?

Steel crusher processes 5 (6?) per coal. I forget how much RF one coal produces vs how much RF a pulverizer uses per ore processed.

Either way, I prefer the pulverizer route once I have the basic infrastructure built due to the ability to store RF and use it in the gamut of RF and MJ powered devices.

 

[James_Grimm]

Having played a bunch of Metallurgy, the intended progression is that you always start with Stone tech machines, and then upgrade each individual block up through the metal progress. Stone->Copper->Bronze->Iron->Steel for all the base machines. You use the nether metal progression for the lava smelter, and the precious metal progression for the Metallurgy chests (Wood->Brass->Silver->Gold->Electrum->Platinum).

You need a copper crusher to make a bronze crusher anyways, unless they changed the recipe. So if you are set on the Metallurgy machines, the above shortcuts won't help as much. I think a Pulverizer uses 400 RF per ore, and gets 16K RF per coal in a dynamo, so I believe the TE machine is more efficient. It can also process more types of things then just metal (which the crusher can't do yet, again unless it's been updated, but I do believe they were planning on adding that in the next update).

Edit: On the plus side for Metallurgy, the Steel Furnace easily rivals a Triple Thaumcraft Bellowed Furnace for fuel efficiency and speed. And the Gold/Platinum chests hold a massive amount of items, again easily rivaling the best chests from the Iron Chests mod (which might not be in Horizons? I forget).

Edit, the second, Duke of Equipment: If you also have the fantasy metals, and can eventually get Celengil (it's Orichalcum + Platinum) it's freaking amazeballs for making Tools/Armor out of. But being Orichalcum it's rare to find, and you'll need a ... Mythril pick to get it, which needs a Steel pick to mine that. Everything in Metallurgy is based around the tiering of the metals.

 

[James_Grimm]

I was wrong. I booted up a world with TE3 and:

The Pulverizer uses between 2400 (for most gemstone ores) and 4000 (for most metals) RF per Operation. And Charcoal is worth 24K RF, so that's 6 Per for most metals. Steel Crusher vs Pulverizer is about equal in efficiency then for Ore usage, with the Pulverizer pulling ahead if you are crushing gems/wool/other stuff. The Redstone Furnace is more efficient then I expected at only 1600 RF per item cooked, so 15 items per charcoal in a Dynamo but its regular furnace speed compared to the Steel Furnace which is significantly faster and only slightly less efficient per fuel.

The Metallurgy smelter built with Nether metals requires more math then I want to figure out right now. I believe a bucket of Lava gets either 120k or 180k RF in a dynamo, and I have no idea how many operations a bucket does in the M. Smelter.

I forgot how good the top-tier Metallurgy machines could be, they do not lag far behind TE's stat-wise at all.