Bronze ingots somehow 4 to 1? What changed?

[Gmoff01]

I'm running freshly restarted Ultimate server with the expensive gregtech recipes all disabled, but for some reason 1 bronze ingot is requiring 3 copper and 1 tin. Even gregtech gives you two for that. Does anyone know what else might be affecting the recipe?

 

[Poppycocks]

Not sure what changes it but you've got other options. You could make bronze blend first and smelt that, that's 2:1, Then there's the smeltery which I'm not entirely sure if it's 1:1 or 2:1, but better than ignot smashing regardless. The last option is the alloy smelter from GT which also does 2:1.

I'm almost certain that there definetly a 1:1 in there somewhere, can't quite recall what does it though.

 

[whizzball1]

I'm running freshly restarted Ultimate server with the expensive gregtech recipes all disabled, but for some reason 1 bronze ingot is requiring 3 copper and 1 tin. Even gregtech gives you two for that. Does anyone know what else might be affecting the recipe?

This has always been like that.
Ingots make 1, Dusts make two.
You can also change it in the Dynamic Config to re-enable the Forestry Bronze.

 

[Whovian]

This has always been like that.

Since when? Last time I checked, Forestry gave you 4 for 3/1 and GT gave you 2 for 3/1, I was unaware of any other conversion ratios.

 

[whizzball1]

Since when? Last time I checked, Forestry gave you 4 for 3/1 and GT gave you 2 for 3/1, I was unaware of any other conversion ratios.

Greg changed it (apparently recently) for ingots to make 1 and dusts to make 2.
At least that's how it was on AutoMagical before I changed the Dynamic Config.

 

[EternalDensity]

Greg changed it (apparently recently) for ingots to make 1 and dusts to make 2.
At least that's how it was on AutoMagical before I changed the Dynamic Config.

And since you make 2 dusts from 1 ore...

 

[Bomb Bloke]

I use GregTech (or at least, a version that's a few months old) and get two bronze ingots for one tin and three copper ingots.

 

[Icarus White]

I think I remember what's going on here:
The reason the dusts behave like this now is because of the Alloying Machine. Er. I think that's what it's called anyway.
What Greg has done is give people one of a few options:
1) Smelt ores into bars normally, combine 4->1
2) Smelt ores into bars, use the alloy machine to make 4->2
3) Macerate ores, combine dusts, and smelt the dusts to make, essentially, 4->2.

So in summary, this is to encourage use of the alloy machine.

 

[Daemonblue]

Here's the different values:
Forestry 3 copper ingots + 1 tin ingot for 4 bronze ingots
IC2 3 copper dusts + 1 tin dust for 2 bronze dust
Gregtech 3 copper dusts + 1 tin dust for 2 bronze dust, 3 copper ingots + 1 tin ingot for 1 bronze ingot (over nerf)
Tinker's Construct 3 copper ore + 1 tin ore for 4 bronze ingot, 3 copper ingot + 1 tin ingot for 2 bronze ingot

Tinker's Construct's smelter doubles ores like a macerator hence why the numbers are the same for IC2 and TC. Gregtech over nerfs Forestry recipe so that it's less than what you can get with dusts. Forestry's recipe is balanced only without the other mods due to having no ore doubling of its own, but needs to be brought to 2 ingots per 3 copper and 1 tin ingot due to ore doubling.

 

[Loufmier]

induction smelter should be able to make bronze, so you dont need to mess around with GT

 

[natnif36]

Unless something has been changed the Inductiom smelter CAN make bronze.

 

[MilConDoin]

There's also an config option in GT to get back the 4 bronze ingots.
I think it was DynamicConfig->DisabledRecipes->B:bronzeingotcrafting=true switched to false (gregtech 3.07f)