[Big Reactors Turbine] How can I upgrade it?

[TheLittlei]

So I built a very basic BR turbine (3X3X4) with gold coils.(540 RF/t) As I create more and more machines, the RF demand will increase and slowly have negative RF. So if I want to upgrade the turbine, what should I do first? (coil, size, etc) I can at most afford resonant ender blocks.

 

[Pyure]

Out of curiosity, how are you generating steam for the turbine? I'm assuming its a BR Reactor.

The only way for you to really upgrade is to make the thing bigger. Your coils are fine. Once the turbine is bigger, you can add more blades, ensuring you're using just enough blades to keep the turbine spinning at an optimal rate (900rpm or 1800 rpm)

 

[TheLittlei]

Out of curiosity, how are you generating steam for the turbine? I'm assuming its a BR Reactor.

The only way for you to really upgrade is to make the thing bigger. Your coils are fine. Once the turbine is bigger, you can add more blades, ensuring you're using just enough blades to keep the turbine spinning at an optimal rate (900rpm or 1800 rpm)

As I am playing SF2.5, I am able to craft cyanite ingots by mixing sand and yellorium. I use the steam boiler from MFR with a liquid transposer to infinitely loop lava buckets over to get steam.

Making the turbine bigger is a must, but how big? I don't really wanna do the maths as I don't really know how to calculate that.

 

[Pyure]

As I am playing SF2.5, I am able to craft cyanite ingots by mixing sand and yellorium. I use the steam boiler from MFR with a liquid transposer to infinitely loop lava buckets over to get steam.

Making the turbine bigger is a must, but how big? I don't really wanna do the maths as I don't really know how to calculate that.

Well let's see. The critical factor here is knowing how much steam you are making, and understanding that each blade block you add consumes (I believe) 25mb of it. For instance, if you're generating 200 mb/t steam, you want (at least) 8 blades in your turbine to use it all.

After that, its a matter of adding/removing coils until you find the sweet spot for rpms. I can't tell you what that number is, it depends on factors such as the coils themselves. A bit of experimentation is in order.

 

[TheLittlei]

Well let's see. The critical factor here is knowing how much steam you are making, and understanding that each blade block you add consumes (I believe) 25mb of it. For instance, if you're generating 200 mb/t steam, you want (at least) 8 blades in your turbine to use it all.

After that, its a matter of adding/removing coils until you find the sweet spot for rpms. I can't tell you what that number is, it depends on factors such as the coils themselves. A bit of experimentation is in order.

From the wiki, it says the steam boiler generates 400mb of steam per tick, which means I need to have at least 16 blades. I will experiment with it though, reporting results when I'm done.

 

[rhn]

From the wiki, it says the steam boiler generates 400mb of steam per tick, which means I need to have at least 16 blades. I will experiment with it though, reporting results when I'm done.

This has a list of full sized coils(8 in a ring) and their respective steam consumption at the sweetspot RPMs(900 or 1800). Dont know if that can be of any use to dial you in:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lpxtj2y628SLT9RFMeWgidGe7C_3bjCWvYD0LnKrvoY/edit#gid=1

8 Enderium coils looks to be close(433mb/t). Maybe test it out with 7.

 

[MacAisling]

For the coils, ludicrite is best, enderium is 2nd best. You need 80 blades to use the max amount of steam. Having more blades than you are currently using doesn't seem to hurt anything, so I tend to build the box and blades as I build up the yellorium and can spare the iron (7x7x16). Then I add endirium blocks as I can with the ultimate goal being a coil of 32 ludicrite blocks (4x8).

 

[GamerwithnoGame]

For the coils, ludicrite is best, enderium is 2nd best. You need 80 blades to use the max amount of steam. Having more blades than you are currently using doesn't seem to hurt anything, so I tend to build the box and blades as I build up the yellorium and can spare the iron (7x7x16). Then I add endirium blocks as I can with the ultimate goal being a coil of 32 ludicrite blocks (4x8).

When using a reactor this is definitely true, but I think steam generation is an issue - if I'm reading it right, the OP is only going to be generating 400 mb/t, in which case the gain in RF from using Enderium or Ludicrite might be offset by the extra drag and expense they take to make. Not sure though!

 

[Pyure]

When using a reactor this is definitely true, but I think steam generation is an issue - if I'm reading it right, the OP is only going to be generating 400 mb/t, in which case the gain in RF from using Enderium or Ludicrite might be offset by the extra drag and expense they take to make. Not sure though!

Yep. I'm trying to limit the conversation to the OP's specific scenario rather than provide min/max solutions (which are all over the internet)

 

[Aetherpirate]

Electrum blocks make for a nice affordable coil block, better than gold.

 

[Pyure]

@TheLittlei, another thing to be aware of us that there's no penalty for mixing blocks. If X Enderium blocks are too many and X-1 Enderium blocks are too few (to maintain a good RPM) you can replace an Enderium with something "weaker", like Gold or Lead. (although an unoptimized Enderium can sometimes be more efficient overall than an optimized Lead, etc)

 

[MacAisling]

If my math is correct and SF2.5 hasn't changed the configs, he should be able to use 6 blocks of ludicrite to make around 5,000 RF/t with his current steam production. 7 blocks of enderium may be about the same. If he expects his power consumption to exceed that, he will have to increase his steam production as well. I just like to go straight for the top end so I can skip the math and a lot of the fiddling to get the speed right.

 

[TheLittlei]

@TheLittlei, another thing to be aware of us that there's no penalty for mixing blocks. If X Enderium blocks are too many and X-1 Enderium blocks are too few (to maintain a good RPM) you can replace an Enderium with something "weaker", like Gold or Lead. (although an unoptimized Enderium can sometimes be more efficient overall than an optimized Lead, etc)

Yea I read that you can mix coil materials. I will try different coils and put the results here.

If my math is correct and SF2.5 hasn't changed the configs, he should be able to use 6 blocks of ludicrite to make around 5,000 RF/t with his current steam production. 7 blocks of enderium may be about the same. If he expects his power consumption to exceed that, he will have to increase his steam production as well. I just like to go straight for the top end so I can skip the math and a lot of the fiddling to get the speed right.

Lmao ludicrite is too expensive for me right now. And I don't really need that much power as I am still early-mid game in sky factory. I will keep the coils gold for the time being, or whatever materials I can afford, maybe mix in some enderium as well.

 

[TheLittlei]

So here's the results:

With gold coils:
http://imgur.com/2jgBoX7
Well I figured that I would love to keep the RPM at around 1800, so that's not really going to work.

With electrum coils:
http://imgur.com/pBWK1um
Nah that didn't work either. 2k RPM is too much for me.

With platinum/shiny coils:
http://imgur.com/ymBDKbN
Well this one is close but not quite. A little bit too fast.

With enderium coils:
http://imgur.com/DOoWNYC
Wow. Enderium is really efficient. But I thought,'Well this coil is really good but a little bit too expensive. Let me try something'

So here is what I am using now. With 7 enderium blocks and 1 shiny blocks:
http://imgur.com/L1FpnmB
Perfect RPM and mad power (for me at least). It seems to stop at 1698 RPM and producing 4310 RF/t.

So the power problem is solved. I (hopefully) don't need to expand this turbine for a while. Thanks everyone!