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Hello everyone,

I've been reading a lot lately, and I think I've found a quick way to work up in 15WGT and Ultimate.

1) You do your usually things, examples mining, making a little base, making some engines.

2) You setup a MFR tree farm. You'd probably need a skeleton farm to keep it running/have scrap production running.

3) Power your engine with the wood from the farm.

4) Convert the saplings into biofuel/ethanol.

5) Convert the wood into charcoal

6) Power a boiler with the charcoal

7) Make a decision what you want, either a steam turbine, either industrial steam engines.

I think this is a pretty good strategy, especially with Gregtech.

If you have any suggestions, I'll be pleased to here them.

netchip
 
No need for skeleton farm (im assuming for bonemeal) just use a composter and some sewers in an animal pen and feed the fert to the fertilizer.
 
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Skullywag said:
No need for skeleton farm (im assuming for bonemeal) just use a composter and some sewers in an animal pen and feed the fert to the fertilizer.
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That'd probably work, but will it give enough to let the farm run quickly? More specific, to let a 36HP boiler constantly running?
 
with 3 cows I get a fertilizer every 30 seconds or so. So with a few more cows it soon gets crazy. Depends how fast you want it really, want fast have a crap tonne of cows. I reckon 20-30 cows and youd have a tree a sec.
 
I think throwing the wood through a Sawmill will yield more power per log than Charcoal, but I'm not sure if that's still true for Boilers in 1.5.

Also, with GT you now have upgrades to run your GT machines on Steam if you want. It's probably not as efficient as using a turbine or some other conversion process, but it might still be worth a try.

As for the phase before you have your tree farm up and running, consider using Oil. It has a ton of power and it's easy to setup, so it will get you to that tree farm really fast and you'll have plenty of power to kick start it. Once your tree farm is up and running you can reuse the Combustion engines by feeding them Biofuel. Combustion engines are very efficient, especially early game as they don't need to warm up or anything. The biggest issue is cooling them, but 1 bucket of Oil won't explode an engine without cooling (which you can then break and replace and toss in another bucket of Oil), though an Aqua Accumelator is easy to setup as well.
 
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Yup, MFR has the strongest tree farm option atm; the sewer/composter/harvester/fertilizer is such a potent combination and can be made very compact.

Not sure how server friendly it is though, it's easy to stack a hundred cows but if everyone does it then the entity count might suffer.
 
if you want to get really efficient and somewhat exploity sawmill your logs inot planks then turns thoes planks into scaffold then burn those, its insane how much power you can get, you wont use that much wood lol.
 
Ah. Often before I go with biofuel, I use coal cokes in a hobbyist' steam engines. But it probably would be better if I go walk with buckets Oil.

GregTech nerfed scaffolds, they don't give that much anymore.

I'm really wondering how many 36HP boilers I could run one one 3x3 tree farm + 20 cows...
 
Alright. I tested it. I spawned 20 cows with 9 sewers. I placed 2 composers on a fertilizer, and I used oak saplings. To run the composter/fertilizer/planter/harvester combo, 15 a 20MJ/t is recommended. I used a ME Network, I needed power for that as well. To power the solid fueled 36HP boiler, I needed 3 sawmills, in the startup phase. Later on, I could turn one off. I suppose if it's 100°C, I can only let one run. Those use a lot of power as well.

I'd build a reserve of ~1k logs before putting the boiler on. It's self sustaining if you have ~5 industrial steam engines for power.

You can power one boiler with planks and one with biofuel. So two in total.
 
For startup, I build the basic TE machines plus one steam engine and a coke oven. From there, I aim for the minimum stone so I can get two liquid tesseracts, which result in a tank full of oil via a pump powered by redstone engines. Then, build a refinery with make a couple buckets of fuel, and follow it up with a fuel-powered combustion engine to make this loop self-sustaining. All the while you can be making coal coke for a blast furnace and the steel needed for a boiler.

2 geysers should run a pair of boilers for a couple days, giving you time to make a quarry and storage system. From there, everything points upward. I run on oil till I build nukes as its energy density far outweighs its renewability.
 
I used a few TE steam engines in a row with the output of planks for the sawmills running past them to keep them filled to power my setup, but im not at the boiler stage just yet.
 
I saw "Make an MFR tree farm" and I realized I'm not that smart. I gotta get into MFR more, now that forestry isn't a (good, easy to use) option.
 
Update: if the boiler is around ~500°C you'll get a surplus of planks. On 10 minutes I'm around 2k planks.
 
Two max boilers run off of one 3x3 tree farm? That is quite insane.

Also, how well did the saplings keep up with the boiler? I'm wondering if you may need mult. tree systems for the sapling to keep up.
 
Darkstreaker said:
Two max boilers run off of one 3x3 tree farm? That is quite insane.

Also, how well did the saplings keep up with the boiler? I'm wondering if you may need mult. tree systems for the sapling to keep up.
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I didn't power up the other boiler, yet. I hadn't the ~700 buckets of biofuel required for it, I could test it. I don't think it's going to keep up very well, but it should be possible.
 
You could simply burn the bio fuel in bio generators, at 16 MJ/t and no strings attached, those things kick ass.

Heck a tiny manuall farm for taters and carrots will net you enough power to run the tree farm at full throttle once you build it.
 
Poppycocks said:
You could simply burn the bio fuel in bio generators, at 16 MJ/t and ho strings attached, those things kick ass.

Heck's a tiny manuall farm for taters and carrots will net you enough power to run the tree farm at full throttle once you build it.
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Bio generators? Should look up what they do.
 
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