Bees in 1.6. Ignoble and Pristine configs?

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OlexaKid64

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Is there any way to turn off the Ignoble bees dying off in the configs? I've searched and searched but haven't found anything on it. If anybody knows how to stop this please tell me!
 

Bagman817

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Is there any way to turn off the Ignoble bees dying off in the configs? I've searched and searched but haven't found anything on it. If anybody knows how to stop this please tell me!
To my knowledge, not possible. Solution: install Gendustry. The industrial apiary has an upgrade that prevents ignoble bees from dying out.
 
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asb3pe

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Solution: Collect 10 times as many Meadows and Forest bees as you used to, then throw 90% of them into the DNA meltdown thing, since it seems that only 10% of hive bees are pristines (just my guess, I dunno).

And then my quarry digs up 200 rocky princesses and they're all pristines. Not a single ignoble. Go figure, eh? Consistency... sigh.

If you're like me, you make about 20 stacks of cultivated drones (because they have the shortest life and fastest production for making honey) and drop a rocky princess into each apiary with chocolate frames. One or two hours later, they're all cultivated pristines (apiarist pipes and autarchic gates for the win!) and I can start mixing and matching with common drones to make the diligents and nobles, etc. From that point forward, there's no change because there's no ignobles at all.

So even with the new ignoble (semi)roadblock... I started bees yesterday in Monster, and by tomorrow I'll definitely have pristine Industrious and Imperials in mass quantity, and I'll have pollen and jelly and alvearies and soon have a hundred bees making any and every raw material possible... so yeah, ignobles suck, but they don't suck too bad except on that first day when you're out gathering from hives.

Why they bothered to add a "feature" that is basically irrelevant except for adding some nuisance at the beginning, I have no idea. But I still love my bees. :)
 
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rhn

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Ignoble can still be used btw. The never die off in "Bee House"s but ofc cant be automated. Use them in the beginning for some manual breeding to get some honey etc. then scrap them once you got pristines in automated Apiaries/Alvearies.
 

asb3pe

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Ignoble can still be used btw. The never die off in "Bee House"s but ofc cant be automated. Use them in the beginning for some manual breeding to get some honey etc. then scrap them once you got pristines in automated Apiaries/Alvearies.

Even tho I read the wiki and talked to people who told me this same thing... I just couldn't get it out of my head that "ignobles are bad" and couldn't ever get myself to take the chance with them. It's just an automatic "melt em down" for me, throw em all away. You really don't need many pristine meadows and forest princesses to get to common/cultivateds, and from that point on the entire pristine/ignoble thing is irrelevant, at least the way I do my bees.
 

rhn

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Even tho I read the wiki and talked to people who told me this same thing... I just couldn't get it out of my head that "ignobles are bad" and couldn't ever get myself to take the chance with them. It's just an automatic "melt em down" for me, throw em all away. You really don't need many pristine meadows and forest princesses to get to common/cultivateds, and from that point on the entire pristine/ignoble thing is irrelevant, at least the way I do my bees.
Yeah eventually 90+% of my princess end up stemming from Rocky princess too.

I think the intention with the Ignoble/pristine change was to introduce even more realism. In RL bee breeding your new princess(Queens) are sometimes genetically flawed or fucked up crazy. And they simply need to be killed off and replaced.
 

ex13

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Actually, I think setting beekeeping.mode to EASY in apiculture.conf makes ignoble bees to last forever. Of course, it also changes a bunch of other stuff...
 

LukeWUK

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Hi guys just wanted to add that early game i dont even worry bout it. I breed em as usual to get common cultivsted etc then use there drones on pristine later. I read you get 100 generations at least mine havnt died yet