Autarchic gate > Pulverizer input overflow

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GaseousSnake

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I've got an Ender chest full of coal that I'd like to pump into a Pulverizer. The coal dust is pumped out and used elsewhere in my schemes. ;) I set up a wooden pipe with an autarchic gate to pull from the chest and into the Pulverizer's input, and set the "Space in Inventory" > "Energy Pulsar" conditions on the gate. The gate starts up and pulls from the Ender chest properly, and all is well...until the input slot in the Pulverizer fills up and the gate doesn't appear to shut off, so my pipe dumps coal all over the place.

Is there a way to reconfigure the gate to avoid this overflow? I know I could use a couple different methods to deal with the extra coal that would get spit out of the pipe system, but I'd prefer to have the gate just shut itself off so no resources are wasted.

Thanks in advance!
 

KirinDave

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There really isn't a way to do it optimally. You can use "Inventory Empty" > "Energy Pulsar"
 

Whovian

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I think the reason it isn't shutting off is because it's also adjacent to the chest and it's detecting that there's space in the chest.
 

Hoff

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Instead of that try using an ejector with a computer for a timer or an MFR timer. Connect it directly to both with the hole facing the pulverizer.
 

Lisranda

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It sounds like you have the gate on a wooden pipe that is connected to the chest?

The correct setup using "Space in Inventory" would be to have two gates, one regular Iron or better gate on the pipe connected to the Pulverizer and the other Autharchic on the pipe connected to the chest with pipe wire connecting them. The Iron gate would be set to emit a red pipe signal with "Space in Inventory" and the gate on the chest would be set to emit Energy Pulser with Red Pipe Signal.

That being said... it won't perfect overflow. I don't think the Pulverizer can give the "Inventory 1/2 Full" gate signal (I want to say that's forestry machines only) but I'm not 100% sure. Something that isn't BuildCraft pipes might suit you better. Or even a Hopper/Chute possibly?
 

egor66

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you need 2 gates, 2 red pipewire A/&/or Iron gate on wooden pipe from chest set gate to RS = Pulse, use a gold pipe from wooden to the pulverizer set &/or iron gate to Empty or Space for items = RS, this way it stops the gates getting crossed signals.
 

PoisonWolf

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Can't you use a filter with pneumatic tubes? Pneumatic tubes are much more intelligent in dealing with things like this and won't result in items being spit out. If for whatever reason, it won't handle it right (e.g., doesn't insert into the right slot), use filter > pneumatic tubes > router (set to insert into appropriate slot/sides) > pulverizer.

And also, if you're getting too much coal for the ender chest, consider using item tesseracts instead that are connected to diamond chests. Much higher storage capacity. =) I recently discovered pneumatic tubes and I prefer them over buildcraft pipes now because of their intelligence in sending stuff. A filter also has the benefit of sending a stack of coal at a time to your pulverizer.

Hope this helps!
 

Hoff

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Also if you're on 152 you can use extra utilities pipes and transfer nodes as they work like a much slower yet more efficient(algorithm wise) pneumatic tube system.
 

Lisranda

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If you're hard set on using pipes, using an Insertion Pipe connected to the Pulverizer and then building a loop back to protect from the overflow is probably the most elegant solution. Gates using "Space in Inventory" are just..... not good. An Insertion Pipe will immediately teleport the item into the inventory to eliminate conflicts if more than one item is in the tube at the same time, and then will close off that inventory for items -- forwarding any more that come down the pipe network -- until it can accept more. Items cannot move backward though, and if there is no other valid destinations they will be ejected from the pipe.
 

tedyhere

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Umm he's on Mindcrack so he is on 1.4.7 No insertion pipes, no extra utilities the methos is the iron gate red-pipe wire and aut gate.
 

Deathshroud09

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If you're hard set on using pipes, using an Insertion Pipe connected to the Pulverizer and then building a loop back to protect from the overflow is probably the most elegant solution. Gates using "Space in Inventory" are just..... not good. An Insertion Pipe will immediately teleport the item into the inventory to eliminate conflicts if more than one item is in the tube at the same time, and then will close off that inventory for items -- forwarding any more that come down the pipe network -- until it can accept more. Items cannot move backward though, and if there is no other valid destinations they will be ejected from the pipe.

Insertion pipe?

Edit: Thanks tedyhere
 

namiasdf

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Put another pipe between the chest and the pulverizer so the gate isn't reading the inventory for both the chest and the machine.
 

Vovk

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meh. don't bother with pipes for this unless you want to add more pulverizers to handle input.

Instead use a filter or transposer + timer on the ender chest going into the pulverizer with pneumatic tubes. You can add relays as a buffer but they're really not required unless your tube system is very very very long.
 

Zelfana

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I use clay golems for keeping machines supplied. Strong kind for single type of item, fast for non-stacking (never needed that one). They are simple enough to use and won't drop items on the ground. The required research might be a bit much if you haven't done Thaumcraft yet, though. Also, they are actually faster in moving items in a small space (if the golem doesn't have to move at all or only very little and it is strong cored) than an autarchic gate wooden pipe.
 

DREVL

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factorization router to retrieve from enderchest. Put router right inbetween enderchest and hopper going into pulverizer or pulverizer. the router will only take out what is possible to put in. add ejector to router to insert. I prefer routers to anything rp2 actually.
 
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PoisonWolf

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factorization router to retrieve from enderchest. Put router right inbetween enderchest and hopper going into pulverizer or pulverizer. the router will only take out what is possible to put in. add ejector to router to insert. I prefer routers to anything rp2 actually.


Actually, I've never noticed this ejector upgrade previously. I just read into it and I must say, it's looking pretty awesome already. Thanks for this heads up! I too prefer routers and use them for everything in my setups!
 

DREVL

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Pipes and tubes are good starter delivery methods. But pipes are stupid and using rp timers gives me an annoying slight fps freeze everytime it signals. If I can, I always go to routers.
 

MacAisling

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I'm switching from Ultimate to the new modpacks just to get the vanilla hoppers into my processing & storage system. With Ultimate, I find that hopper/hopper/pulverizer/furnace will keep up with auto processing ores from a quarry (with separate paths for things that need to go through 1 but not the other) as long as I am not processing stone or gravel, but will back up if I dump a full inventory into the system.
 

Artheos

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What I have started using is an ME Export Buss connected to a hopper. It just feeds it as it has room. No pipes to over flow. You can then have a chest for the output. When it is full, the pulvierizer will stop running. You can prefill chest slots if you don't want a whole chest full.