Any way to convert EU to MJ, then back to EU?

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ThaLegendaryNoob

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I'm working on a way to transfer EU through an energy tesseract by converting it to MJ, then back to EU on the other end. I've already figured out the EU to MJ part which (in my mind) doesn't seem TOO efficient, but it works. For this I am using Electrical engines which convert the EU given to them to MJ, then that is being stored in a Redstone Energy Cell, and then being put into the tesseract and out the other end.

This here is where I am lost. I cannot figure out how to convert the MJ back to EU. I've looked around, but nothing is really popping up.

If you can help, please do so. I'm not too worried by the energy loss. If you can change my Electrical engine thing to something more efficient, please do so, too. Though, materials being used are a big part in what I'm trying to achieve since I'm a pretty poor on my world.
 

Guswut

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If by that, you mean the ultimate pack, you should have access to the Power Converter blocks, which should be able to do exactly what you want.

A better solution if you don't mind some LUA coding is setting up a turtle with two ender chests, which moves batteries (re-batteries, energy crystals, lapcrystals, etc) using them, as it's much more efficient for moving EU long distances/between dimensions.

Good luck!
 

Guswut

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this is pretty late game but I reccomend an InterDimensional Storage Unit.

Don't you mean that you recommend TWO IDSUs, as you need two of them to function in the capacity required?

Yeah, "late game" is right at that.
 

zemerick

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I don't think you quite understand just HOW inefficient what you are trying to do is OP. I would def. go with something direct like the others said, or just build a separate power station.

If you are using conduit: You lose 5% power going into the redstone cell, 5% going into the tesseract, 25% coming out, then another 5% to go into any converter. Converters are always inefficient like the electrical engine, so youll lose even more power here. If you use golden conductive pipe, every single pipe loses a small amount of power. This adds up very fast, and you still lose that 25% at the tesseract.

I haven't looked up the numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if you get less than 25% of the power you put in.
 

ThaLegendaryNoob

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If by that, you mean the ultimate pack, you should have access to the Power Converter blocks, which should be able to do exactly what you want.

A better solution if you don't mind some LUA coding is setting up a turtle with two ender chests, which moves batteries (re-batteries, energy crystals, lapcrystals, etc) using them, as it's much more efficient for moving EU long distances/between dimensions.

Good luck!

I'm using the Mindcrack FTB pack.

I'm trying to figure this out for use with Thaumcraft Magic Energy Absorbers, as they have a tendency to blow up nuke your house. Just wanna do this as a safe way to get EU from a dangerous source since I have a ton of shards to use. I don't want to use anything extremely expensive like an IDSU just in case it blows up nukes the area. I know I could move the IDSU to a more far away place from the Absorber, but I don't know the range of the explosion since I've never actually had one explode. I also want this to be able to be used on a multiplayer server, so (as far as I know, anyway) IDSU's are out of the question since others would be able to access the power I generate.

The EU to MJ conversion is quite small. With one of everything, the smallest I can make it requires 1 Electrical engine, 1 Absorber, 1 Glass Cable, 1 REC, 2 RE Conduit, and 1 tesseract, which is fairly cheap and a small setup. It can be tiled easily.

I see where you're going with the turtle idea. Though, I am no LUA coder. I know a bit. Well, I can edit certain values and stuff... That's about it. Great idea though.[DOUBLEPOST=1363801110][/DOUBLEPOST]
If by that, you mean the ultimate pack, you should have access to the Power Converter blocks, which should be able to do exactly what you want.

A better solution if you don't mind some LUA coding is setting up a turtle with two ender chests, which moves batteries (re-batteries, energy crystals, lapcrystals, etc) using them, as it's much more efficient for moving EU long distances/between dimensions.

Good luck!

I'm using the Mindcrack FTB pack.

I'm trying to figure this out for use with Thaumcraft Magic Energy Absorbers, as they have a tendency to blow up nuke your house. Just wanna do this as a safe way to get EU from a dangerous source since I have a ton of shards to use. I don't want to use anything extremely expensive like an IDSU just in case it blows up nukes the area. I know I could move the IDSU to a more far away place from the Absorber, but I don't know the range of the explosion since I've never actually had one explode. I also want this to be able to be used on a multiplayer server, so (as far as I know, anyway) IDSU's are out of the question since others would be able to access the power I generate.

The EU to MJ conversion is quite small. With one of everything, the smallest I can make it requires 1 Electrical engine, 1 Absorber, 1 Glass Cable, 1 REC, 2 RE Conduit, and 1 tesseract, which is fairly cheap and a small setup. It can be tiled easily.

I see where you're going with the turtle idea. Though, I am no LUA coder. I know a bit. Well, I can edit certain values and stuff... That's about it. Great idea though.
 

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I'm trying to figure this out for use with Thaumcraft Magic Energy Absorbers, as they have a tendency to blow up nuke your house. Just wanna do this as a safe way to get EU from a dangerous source since I have a ton of shards to use.

As it looks like you're just after safe ways to get EU, you may want to think about setting up a Steve's Cart tree farm, as you'll be able to get a LOT more power for less work, and it'll be entirely self-sustaining, and it won't have to be set up kilometers away to avoid fluxification issues.
 

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Power Converters wiki says "Engine Generators convert BC power to EU at a 1:1 ratio, based on the energy output of Coal in a Generator vs. the energy output of Coal in a Steam Engine (for more information on how this value is calculated, see the "Balance, math and other numbers" section below)."
So to me it looks like the tessearact is the only big hit to efficiency.

(dang am I slow today! Energy Converters are Ultimate pack so of no use sorry :) )
 

ThaLegendaryNoob

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As it looks like you're just after safe ways to get EU, you may want to think about setting up a Steve's Cart tree farm, as you'll be able to get a LOT more power for less work, and it'll be entirely self-sustaining, and it won't have to be set up kilometers away to avoid fluxification issues.

Well, just trying something different. I haven't seen anyone try it out so I'd like to try it myself.
 

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If you use a charging bench and an enderchest with autarcic gates you dont need turtles. Set the conditions on each side and make sure the pipes are in the right places and it works. I remote charge my stuff all the time with a pouch/chest combo.
 

Jyzarc

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I'm working on a way to transfer EU through an energy tesseract by converting it to MJ, then back to EU on the other end. I've already figured out the EU to MJ part which (in my mind) doesn't seem TOO efficient, but it works. For this I am using Electrical engines which convert the EU given to them to MJ, then that is being stored in a Redstone Energy Cell, and then being put into the tesseract and out the other end.

This here is where I am lost. I cannot figure out how to convert the MJ back to EU. I've looked around, but nothing is really popping up.

If you can help, please do so. I'm not too worried by the energy loss. If you can change my Electrical engine thing to something more efficient, please do so, too. Though, materials being used are a big part in what I'm trying to achieve since I'm a pretty poor on my world.

you could send energy crystals through ender chests
 

zemerick

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Power Converters wiki says "Engine Generators convert BC power to EU at a 1:1 ratio, based on the energy output of Coal in a Generator vs. the energy output of Coal in a Steam Engine (for more information on how this value is calculated, see the "Balance, math and other numbers" section below)."
So to me it looks like the tessearact is the only big hit to efficiency.

(dang am I slow today! Energy Converters are Ultimate pack so of no use sorry :) )

That information is massively out of date. Notice how it mentions using wooden conductive pipes with redstone engines? This is from minecraft 1.2.5

That being said, if I'm reading the current config correctly, it's still a perfectly efficient system ( IE: if you did like OP going EU->BC->EU you would get the same amount out that you put in, ignoring normal BC energy losses. )
 

OmegaJasam

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And the loss in the Tessaract.

GEneraly, the best option for moving Eu is to move it as EU.

if not I would recomend EU -> MJ -> Magma Crucable(into lava) _> Liquid Tessaract _> geothermal.

Thats still a smaller loss then ~30% loss you get from pipe to tessaract(5%), tessaract (25%) and whatever you pump it into on the other end.
 

Slidingmike

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If by that, you mean the ultimate pack, you should have access to the Power Converter blocks, which should be able to do exactly what you want.

A better solution if you don't mind some LUA coding is setting up a turtle with two ender chests, which moves batteries (re-batteries, energy crystals, lapcrystals, etc) using them, as it's much more efficient for moving EU long distances/between dimensions.

Good luck!

Why not do this with enderchests? Create a Charging system for lapcrystals, utilize tubes or pipes to pull and insert to a mfsu then pull and remove back to the chest to either be charged or decharged.
 

Guswut

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Why not do this with enderchests? Create a Charging system for lapcrystals, utilize tubes or pipes to pull and insert to a mfsu then pull and remove back to the chest to either be charged or decharged.

When I first set up my EU power moving system, I did not have access to BC gates or the like, so I was stuck using RP2, which did not work well enough and required timers which lagged other people out, or computercraft, which I decided to use.

BC gates could be used with emerald pipes, but the cost of going that direction is much higher in time-from-start-of-game and resources than turtles. Still, whatever works, eh?
 
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Use the MFFS system. You can power an MFFS extractor with MJ or EU, converting it into force energy at the cost of Forcicium. You can then convert it back into EU with an MFFS converter. It's 100% efficient, but does use up forcicium, albeit slowly.