Alveary Problems

[Dsorum]

Hey Guys, i play FTB Direwolf 20 1.0.14
and statet my Bee Keeping on my private Server.

The Problem: Last time i used the Alveary i need 7 FrameHousing filled with Chocolate Frames and my Bee dies instant (within one tick). Did they change anything about the Number of max. Frames working?

2nd Problem: Mutator, i tried the Mutation of a a Medows with a Forest Bee and used up too 3 Mutators filled with a Nether Star... no chance i dont got a Common Drone.

SO What the Hell happen xD since i played last time FTB??
Pls tell me what i missed and Thx

 

[rhn]

Depending on when you last used them, a lot have changed. You now get diminished returns on frames(have been for quite a while), but making them die within one tick? Thats not possible(at least not in any time I have played with bees), minimum is one cycle(27.5secs).

Mutation multiplier have somewhat been capped at 10%. So if you use a mutator, use only one with Uranium(10%) and no frames which alters mutation rate!(if you use soul frames with the mutator for example they ruin the whole thing and it wont work).

 

[Dsorum]

Yes i mean one life cycle. Last time i played i could used 7 Chocolate Frames ((0.5* Lifespan)^7~0.01Lifespan) and the bee dies after one Life Cycle. If u know: Like Oblivion Frame. They habe the Same Effect in one Frame.:=)

What do u mean by "(if you use soul frames with the mutator for example they ruin the whole thing and it wont work)."
Should i ONLY use one Mutator with a Uranium and nothing else? Can u ecplain what means "ruin" ?
Thx for ur fast reply

 

[rhn]

Yes i mean one life cycle. Last time i played i could used 7 Chocolate Frames ((0.5* Lifespan)^7~0.01Lifespan) and the bee dies after one Life Cycle. If u know: Like Oblivion Frame. They habe the Same Effect in one Frame.:=)

What do u mean by "(if you use soul frames with the mutator for example they ruin the whole thing and it wont work)."
Should i ONLY use one Mutator with a Uranium and nothing else? Can u ecplain what means "ruin" ?
Thx for ur fast reply

Yes combining the mutator with soul frames will just make it.. not work. Not sure why, but I ran into the exact same problem in Unleashed when the change was first introduced. Either use only Soul Frames, or use only Mutators. And just use ONLY one Mutator yes with Uranium. You wont get benefit from anything more(more might have adverse effects actually, back when the "caps" were added going over 10% mutation multiplier would cause you to get Swarmer bees (the ones with the (-) in the name) which would die off in a few generations).

 

[Dsorum]

And what is about a CAP in use of Frames? Can i Only use 3 Frames Effective? Because i testet it 3 and 7 Chocolate Frames have the same effect...

 

[rhn]

And what is about a CAP in use of Frames? Can i Only use 3 Frames Effective? Because i testet it 3 and 7 Chocolate Frames have the same effect...

I do not know, not tried it yet in 1.6 and documentation is rather scarce still. In 1.5.2 there were no hard caps on them.

Are you absolutely sure the extra frames have no effect? Have you tried timing it? I would suppose there is diminishing returns on frames over a certain amount, so the effect might just not be as big as you expect.

 

[Dsorum]

All Wikis i found yet told me that Choc frames stack multiply and have no cap. so...
but at least thank u for u Fast reply (again) have a nice day/night
Dsorum