A few questions about bees

[atwig]

First, does the lifespan affect the special comb productions?
Say I have a bee that produces its specialty every 30 minutes, but the lifespan makes it only live for 15 minutes. Does that mean on average no specialties will be produced or does the next generation with the same queen pick up right where the previous left off?

Second, while trying to get new mutations, I had a look through my databank and found a few strange things. There were two evolutions that showed both species needed to get the undiscovered new species, however it showed I had a 0% chance to do so. What does that mean? As I write this out, I realize that those might be the biome-specific mutations. Would this be correct? And if so, how does that play with Extra Biomes XL? Would an autumn forest suffice as a vanilla forest as far as the bees are concerned, etc.?

EDIT: One more question: what are the times in the database for production based off of? Is that the maximum time and is based off slowest working bees or is that based on normal or fast?

 

[MilConDoin]

The times are based on the default working speed of the bee. So having something with "every 30 minutes" with a speed of "slowest", and then changing the speed to "fast" would reduce the time dramatically. Also: 30 minutes is an average value AFAIK (The bee checks every x seconds (depending on working speed) if it will produce something. There is a base chance, which is modified by frames. Taking the time between checks and the base chance into consideration, the bee will produce on average 1 comb per x minutes (30 in the example).)

 

[Celestialphoenix]

It produces combs ect on random ticks, so you'll get some every other generation.
-half an hour is the average time.

I think the times are based off the default for that bee- so make some fast productivity serum, and some alveary-frame housing for super speed.

 

[atwig]

It produces combs ect on random ticks, so you'll get some every other generation.
-half an hour is the average time.

I think the times are based off the default for that bee- so make some fast productivity serum, and some alveary-frame housing for super speed.

So a species that naturally has slowest working speed that I modify to have fast speed will make the average time go down but if it naturally has fast speed, I can't make it go any faster (intrinsically to the bee, I'm not talking about frames and alviaries)?

 

[cronixia]

In my expierence, I've found that bees with fastest speed, and longest lifespan end up producing the most special combs.

 

[atwig]

In my expierence, I've found that bees with fastest speed, and longest lifespan end up producing the most special combs.

That was what my guess was based off very little. Good to know there's at least one testimony to justify the work of putting long life and having it trickle down to the rest of my production bees.

Is there a "fastest" working speed though? I've ever only seen fast. When I first started, I expected it to mirror slow/slower/slowest, but I haven't seen anything like that so far and I'm a fair bit in.

 

[Larroke]

Logically only no clue if its true, bees that die and cycle through use up time that could otherwise be spent "creating" combs, so bees that die alot (losing more time to breeding) would seem to produce less then a bee that just keeps chugging away. Once I get a production line of bees, I try to breed in (or with extra bees inject) the longest lifespan I can get in them with the fastest work speed. This also leaves less drones to deal with. I've not fumbled my way through breeding yet since the packs released, but the new frames and xtra bees seem to give you some other option to balance comb production and drone production.

 

[atwig]

Logically only no clue if its true, bees that die and cycle through use up time that could otherwise be spent "creating" combs, so bees that die alot (losing more time to breeding) would seem to produce less then a bee that just keeps chugging away. Once I get a production line of bees, I try to breed in (or with extra bees inject) the longest lifespan I can get in them with the fastest work speed. This also leaves less drones to deal with. I've not fumbled my way through breeding yet since the packs released, but the new frames and xtra bees seem to give you some other option to balance comb production and drone production.

That was my guess too. The timer resets with the death of a queen and because the time shown is just an average, even the shorter living bees still hit the start of the bell curve, but nothing compared to the longest living ones.

I'd test this out myself, but someone on my server used frames in an aviary (oops!) so I haven't been able to get my bee fix today. Would anyone happen to know how to fix this?

 

[MilConDoin]

Is there a "fastest" working speed though? I've ever only seen fast. When I first started, I expected it to mirror slow/slower/slowest, but I haven't seen anything like that so far and I'm a fair bit in.

You currently can get "fastest" only with thaumic bees. Without that the best you can get is "fast".

 

[smalls_12]

You currently can get "fastest" only with thaumic bees. Without that the best you can get is "fast".

Specifically, the only bee with the "fastest" working speed is the Aura Bee which, as MilConDoin said, is from Thaumic Bees.

 

[whizzball1]

From what I've heard, Bees have a base percentage that can be modified through genetics and frames. BTW, this entire post is going to be things from other threads.
One "Bee Tick" is ~26 seconds. Every "Bee Tick" the bee has a chance to produce a produce. Workspeed modifies this chance. So do frames.