Water Creation

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Demosthenex

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I didn't see any numbers around for this so I thought I'd share.

I'm trying to make a high output water source to feed my reactors with. I've had prior experience with how slow Aqueous Accumulators can be, so I thought I'd try something new.

A Liquid Transfer Node appears to match the AA for output by default.

When I added a stack of Speed Upgrades and a stack of Mining Upgrades to a single LTN over a 3x3 water pool , I was able to fill a 450 bucket tank in under 5 seconds. I had difficulty measuring!

I think I know how I'm pumping water.
 
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One can add more then a single stack of a upgrade, but last I heard, the speed upgrade doesn't so much increase throughput as pathfinding. That is, it finds the destination quicker, but doesn't send things faster. With a simple p2p system, they aren't useful. That of course, is just what I've heard. IIRC there is a different upgrade for actually sending more things at a time. I think it was the Stack upgrade.
 
Yep, I've used the stack one before on items. This is the first time I've bothered with liquid transfer nodes.

I tried benchmarking a LTN, here's the order from slowest to fastest filling a 450 bucket tank:

- LTN 2 blocks from tank w/ 64 speed in over a minute
- 64 mining upgrade in 20 seconds
- 64 speed + mining in under 5 seconds
 
Demosthenex said:
Yep, I've used the stack one before on items. This is the first time I've bothered with liquid transfer nodes.

I tried benchmarking a LTN, here's the order from slowest to fastest filling a 450 bucket tank:

- LTN 2 blocks from tank w/ 64 speed in over a minute
- 64 mining upgrade in 20 seconds
- 64 speed + mining in under 5 seconds
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Did you run a test with stack upgrades, mining+stack upgrades, and mining+speed+stack upgrades?
 
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I did not try stack upgrades. The result with speed and mining blew my mind and I stopped there.
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Did that truly sate you, knowing that there may be a quicker and more powerful way to generate water when needed? Just stopping because you said "That's good enough"?
Because you're a truly horrid Engineer if you are sated, and don't want to do better.
Pay your respects to our lord and savoir, the Serbian God of Lightning and Invention, Nikolai Tesla, and fix what ain't broken, and never be sated with "Good enough".
 
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Let's flip that around. ;]

I exceeded my expectations exponentially, to the point where it wasn't just good enough, it was faster than I could accurately measure.

To think how many reactor setups I've seen with rows of AA's, and I can replace them all with one LTN with upgrades.

That said, can you think of an accurate way to gauge the throughput?
 
Demosthenex said:
Let's flip that around. ;]

I exceeded my expectations exponentially, to the point where it wasn't just good enough, it was faster than I could accurately measure.

To think how many reactor setups I've seen with rows of AA's, and I can replace them all with one LTN with upgrades.

That said, can you think of an accurate way to gauge the throughput?
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Gee, uh, maybe the portable scanner from Extra Utilites made for such a task? Don't get me wrong, I'm sarcastic and antagonistic, but it's one of those "why even ask" things. Plus, as I said, either pay your respects to your lord and savoir, or admit you aren't an engineer. Fix what isn't broken. Find a better way when others say the one we have is "Good Enough".
How do you think people found out how good a XU Liquid Transfer Node with Mining Upgrades could outpace a AA, or 4 AAs, or 16 AAs, or 256 AAs? By saying "Good enough isn't".
 
I had no idea that existed! Unfortunately it shows no rates, only how much is currently present. I may repeat my test with a Fluid Void tomorrow.
 
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I had no idea that existed! Unfortunately it shows no rates, only how much is currently present. I may repeat my test with a Fluid Void tomorrow.
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Fair enough. It's not exactly the most used item out there. In fact, I had never used it before either. I knew of it, and that it's mostly (if not only) used for checking your nodes in one way or another.

That said, RoC has a device that might work better. As with most things in RoC, though, if it does work better, you can bet your sweet virgin airlines it'll take a crapload of power to be better then other choices. And likely your sweet virgin iron stocks as well as enough power to run all of the USA for 50 years, and maybe your sweet ass as well if things go south and you have to make the deal sweeter then it already is. Yes, I know how much you value that ass. He's served you well, but sometimes one just has to let a Donkey go.
 
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Fair enough. It's not exactly the most used item out there. In fact, I had never used it before either. I knew of it, and that it's mostly (if not only) used for checking your nodes in one way or another.

That said, RoC has a device that might work better. As with most things in RoC, though, if it does work better, you can bet your sweet virgin airlines it'll take a crapload of power to be better then other choices. And likely your sweet virgin iron stocks as well as enough power to run all of the USA for 50 years, and maybe your sweet ass as well if things go south and you have to make the deal sweeter then it already is. Yes, I know how much you value that ass. He's served you well, but sometimes one just has to let a Donkey go.
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Thought i was getting a migraine when i saw some indistinguishable text right under your last line... =P
 
Right, my water study is complete.

Final word with a Liquid Transfer Node is that you should use 3 stacks of mining upgrades and one stack of speed upgrades. This should output 190 buckets per second.

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