I'm Obviously Doing BC Power Wrong. How can I improve?

[MrZwij]

The infernal furnace is inferior in bonus to both the macerator and pulverizer (my testing with three bellows was that a stack of ore turns into a stack of ingots plus 84 nuggets, a bonus of 9 ingots where the macerator would give a bonus of 64 and the pulverizer 10% more than that.

It does smelt dusts, so you can use it on that, but provides no bonus. Note it also eats vis and creates flux.

In short: In a mixed mod game, the infernal furnace is worthless.

Nah, not worthless. Just not great for ores. Paired with Arcane Bellows the vis/flux impact is hardly noticeable. Paired with a Brain in a Jar it's a great source of on-demand XP. I use a Hungry Chest to catch the output.

I find it's great for free smelting of sand into glass and cobble into smoothstone. Not sure how many stacks you can throw in there, but I've tossed as many as eight at a time, IIRC. And if you use it to cook meat you get meat nuggets.

 

[Golrith]

Group 3 found a seam of >30 diamonds in one spot in an autumn forest biome just yesterday. I think they ate our entropy. I am tempted to look at the mod code and try and figure out what's making diamond generation so spotty. I wonder if it comes from the fact that this map is based off a vanilla map I imported. Is that your situation as well?

It's fresh world, although my immediate biomes are a redstone mountain (my home), birchwood forest and a jungle.

 

[arkangyl]

Yes, but with multiple people mining unpredictably and the warm up time of engines, this can be a big slowdown. We're trying desperately to get our insanely rare diamonds so there is a lot of unpredictable time downstairs. I'm starting to think that the temperate rainforest biome has poor diamond spawn rates for some reason, because another group on my small server has had similar problems finding diamonds in their temperate rainforest.

Now this is interesting. I live in a Temperate Rainforest on one of the servers I play on, and have had insane problems finding diamonds, as well. I Honeycomb mined the nine chunks around my base from block 4 to block 15. Found one diamond.

 

[jnads]

This was actually covered in a thread a few days ago:

http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/ore-tweak-file.8408/

 

[KirinDave]

This was actually covered in a thread a few days ago:

http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/ore-tweak-file.8408/

Just a note: Examination of the current direwolf20 server file does not show those lines. Maybe it's from a different modpack. AFAIK the only interesting tweak in that file is cutting off copper at the lower levels.

 

[OmegaPython]

Just a note: Examination of the current direwolf20 server file does not show those lines. Maybe it's from a different modpack. AFAIK the only interesting tweak in that file is cutting off copper at the lower levels.

Look at the last post in that thread

 

[jnads]

Look at the last post in that thread

Bingo.


And yes, we recently installed Mindcrack. In my Mystcraft world (without Dense Ores and with cave world), it's a chore to find diamond. It's ultra-rare. I've gotten a stack of every ore and only 2 diamond. Not sure why they nuked it.

It's way worse than FTB Beta A or Vanilla. It's easier to just make diamond using soul shards + blaze farm.

 

[Peppe]

Bingo.


And yes, we recently installed Mindcrack. In my Mystcraft world (without Dense Ores and with cave world), it's a chore to find diamond. It's ultra-rare. I've gotten a stack of every ore and only 2 diamond. Not sure why they nuked it.

It's way worse than FTB Beta A or Vanilla. It's easier to just make diamond using soul shards + blaze farm.

Pretty sure the tweaks in the the mindcrack pack adds an extra diamond cluster to the chunk, so be twice as common in the overworld compared to vanilla.

Other dimensions probably have their own rules. Mystcraft isn't in the default mindcrack version, so I don't have much experience with the ages.

 

[ThemsAllTook]

In a game with IC2, I fail to see how anybody can be low on diamonds once a basic level of technology is reached.

You can only get one diamond per stack of coal, if that's what you're talking about. Maybe I just don't do enough caving/quarrying, but I don't usually end up with chests upon chests full of coal right away (and yes, I do save it for macerating into coal dust instead of burning it). It usually lets me get a couple of extra diamonds if I'm a bit short on them for some recipe I'm trying to craft, but it's definitely not an easy early game high-volume diamond supply.

 

[KirinDave]

I wonder if it's worth making another thread to discuss it. I had a friend on G+ just echo how few diamonds they found on a similar server in the same biomes we're looking for. Perhaps an unexpected interaction exists in the current modpack? Certainly DW20 doesn't seem to have problems finding diamonds, but his videos are homed in more prosaic areas.

 

[jnads]

Pretty sure the tweaks in the the mindcrack pack adds an extra diamond cluster to the chunk, so be twice as common in the overworld compared to vanilla.

Other dimensions probably have their own rules. Mystcraft isn't in the default mindcrack version, so I don't have much experience with the ages.

Eh, I've been mining in my own world too. Diamond is ultra rare.

Dunno if something is broken, but I haven't really encountered it.

Mystcraft uses the standard generation rules, the OP nature (even moreso than Dense Ores - which doesn't seem to be working.... I think a mod is nuking the symbol) of Mystrcraft is mainly you can configure your world to basically make all the ores easily accessible (Cave World + Caves + Ravines + Hell/Extreme Hills). I spent an hour there and came back with stacks of everything (including TC3 shards), and only 2 diamond ores. I was mining ravines, which generally give you a sample of everything. Could not find diamond.... I was exploring Hell, perhaps I'll try Extreme Hills.


It's fine, there are many other ways of getting diamond, which I'll probably resort to. But I've found more in vanilla than this. I was just curious if someone mis-configured something and it's broken.

 

[arkangyl]

I wonder if it's worth making another thread to discuss it. I had a friend on G+ just echo how few diamonds they found on a similar server in the same biomes we're looking for. Perhaps an unexpected interaction exists in the current modpack? Certainly DW20 doesn't seem to have problems finding diamonds, but his videos are homed in more prosaic areas.

My server was in Mindcrack, where I found only one diamond (not even a vein, just one solitary ore) in nine chunks of a Temperate Rainforest biome. I had no issues finding diamonds once I started mining in a nearby Ice Wasteland. I didn't think anything of it, except as a statistical anomaly, until I saw your complaint in this thread.

 

[Icarus White]

Personally I haven't had problems with diamonds for a while - between the factorization grinder (2.25 diamonds per ore, 3.5 coal per ore) and silk touching / industrial grinding Nikolite, I have more than enough for quite a few things.

(That said, you need a diamond block to set up the f. grinder... hmmm.)

Edit: My home base is set up near an underground ravine - several, actually - in Extreme Hills. Maybe that's it?

 

[jnads]

My server was in Mindcrack, where I found only one diamond (not even a vein, just one solitary ore) in nine chunks of a Temperate Rainforest biome. I had no issues finding diamonds once I started mining in a nearby Ice Wasteland. I didn't think anything of it, except as a statistical anomaly, until I saw your complaint in this thread.

Hrm, perhaps there's a bug in the extra biomes?

My friends base is in Temperate Rainforest and he said the same.

 

[KirinDave]

My server was in Mindcrack, where I found only one diamond (not even a vein, just one solitary ore) in nine chunks of a Temperate Rainforest biome. I had no issues finding diamonds once I started mining in a nearby Ice Wasteland. I didn't think anything of it, except as a statistical anomaly, until I saw your complaint in this thread.

I thought we were unlucky too. Then other groups on my server started reporting seriously weird anomalies.

For example, someone found this crazy diamond cluster under and autumn forest biome. I'll make a thread.

 

[Abdiel]

Looking at the stack of 111 torches, I'm not sure how much I believe that image's genuineness.

 

[arkangyl]

I thought we were unlucky too. Then other groups on my server started reporting seriously weird anomalies.

For example, someone found this crazy diamond cluster under and autumn forest biome. I'll make a thread.

Holy Notch, that's a lot of blue sparklies.

Looking at the stack of 111 torches, I'm not sure how much I believe that image's genuineness.

Then again... he has a point lol.

 

[jnads]

Maybe GregTech thought mining Diamond was OP and nerfed the worldgen. Too much diamond.

Now you have to make it using his machines.......

/Obligatory GT bash

 

[KirinDave]

Looking at the stack of 111 torches, I'm not sure how much I believe that image's genuineness.

Yeah he's using creative for things, which is a bit disappointing. Not every group is not using creative mode on my server. However, he claims he did not spawn in diamonds and I'm inclined to take him at his word. Your milage, of course, may vary. It's sort of absurd to go to that level of trouble to justify spawning diamonds when we all agree he should not.

 

[arkangyl]

Yeah he's using creative for things, which is a bit disappointing. Not every group is not using creative mode on my server. However, he claims he did not spawn in diamonds and I'm inclined to take him at his word. Your milage, of course, may vary. It's sort of absurd to go to that level of trouble to justify spawning diamonds when we all agree he should not.

You can't get more than 64 items in a stack with creative, either... At least not by any technique I know of.