Thaumcraft 4 Knowledge Fragments and lost knowledge, why don't they work for me?

[Quiiliitiila]

So I've been hunting down an answer for a long time, but there isn't much info out on TC4 yet I guess. I'm on a Roleplay server where we've kinda made an academy for wizards and most players have picked a specialty. I had decided to run with golems and have focused my studies primarily on them. I've been wanting to make the accessories for my golems, but I can't ever seem to get any lost knowledge when I use the fragments.

All the theories that I do get from putting the fragments together are theories that I could've easily gotten by just researching. Why do I not seem to get any "lost knowledge"? Do I have to know EVERY piece of research before I start getting lost research? If so, that's pretty lame... It would kinda defeat the purpose of everyone having a specialty if I could just do everything because learning how to make tiny hats required it...

TL;DR
Is there something special that needs to be done in order to research golem accessories (from lost knowledge)? Do I need to have completed research on everything else first?

Thanks for any insight anyone can give!
-Quiiliitiila

 

[Tristam Izumi]

When using fragments, you'll generate any research that you can validly research. In your case, the probability that the valid research happens to be one of the "Lost" researches is not that great. The only way to ensure that your fragments get you the golem accessories is to complete every single other research. That said, even before I finished up all the normal research, I did get one of the golem accessories, so it's not impossible. Perhaps make it known you're looking for those, so if others stumble across the research for one from their fragments, you can trade with them?

 

[Quiiliitiila]

Thanks for the speedy reply, kinda sucks though... It also directly goes against what the Thauminomicon says as in it, the book states that knowledge gained will be knowledge that you normally can't get from research, and if it isn't it's a "fake" research and the fragments will be returned to you.

I think the Mods creator just copied and pasted the old text from TC3 and put it in TC4 even though the system is different.

Is there any way to code in specific research using the research.dat file?

Thanks again!
-Q

 

[Tyrrel]

I do believe that the research fragments actually give you research Aspects instead of actual researches. They can be crafted into a Research Note, but it's blank and is basically trash, so don't waste them on that.

-Tyrrel

 

[MacAisling]

Have you scanned a research fragment yet? In my rush through scanning all the things I somehow unlocked the clues to all 8 of the hidden golem upgrades.

 

[ThatOneSlowking]

I do believe that the research fragments actually give you research Aspects instead of actual researches. They can be crafted into a Research Note, but it's blank and is basically trash, so don't waste them on that.

-Tyrrel