Steam engine that does not require redstone signal

[Juanitierno]

Heya!

I love the TE engines because they have their redstone behavior thing, but apparently the steam one doe snot run on steam piped in, its like the stirling engine from BC.

is there a way to make those engines run on steam directly?

I would like to make a "belt" of steam engines and conduits directly attached to my boiler, but cant find an aesthetically pleasing way to provide the required signal for them to run.

ill try red wire, but wnated to ask first in case i cna just avoid them.

 

[Hydra]

They need a redstone powered block somewhere adjacent. What you could do if have them sit on top of blocks and run redstone wire beneath those blocks (on the ceiling, redstone wires power the blocks they're put on). There is no way of removing the requirement aside from convincing the author of RailCraft to add this feature.

 

[Dark0_0firE]

Also the TE steam engines cannot run on steam... you can use the Hobbyist steam engines or the other 2 from railcraft if you like.

 

[Juanitierno]

Yeah, i realize that.

OR convince king lemming to allow me to pipe in steam into his steam engines

 

[slay_mithos]

Yeah, I think you are better off with either the redstone signal through the block like said above, or using simple BC gates.

I tend to go for BC gates because they don't use any space, and they are pretty cheap.
I use Iron ones to be able to use the red pipe wire, but you could even go for a redstone gate, these don't cost much energy or materials to make, once you have a table and a laser.

 

[Juanitierno]

Hm, but woudlnt that force me to use BC power pipes? i consider those quite inferior to redstone conduits.

im not sure if redstone blocks are in the current update.... if they are i might just use a few of those lol.

 

[heavy1metal]

If going for aesthetics, why attach engines directly? Use liquiducts in the second mode. (right click the pipe directly connect to the boiler with a wrench, and give it a redtstone signal)

This will prevent you from having to use a pipe for every engine. One pipe out the boiler feeding a line/cluster of engines.

Heya!

I love the TE engines because they have their redstone behavior thing, but apparently the steam one doe snot run on steam piped in, its like the stirling engine from BC.

is there a way to make those engines run on steam directly?

I would like to make a "belt" of steam engines and conduits directly attached to my boiler, but cant find an aesthetically pleasing way to provide the required signal for them to run.

ill try red wire, but wnated to ask first in case i cna just avoid them.

 

[slay_mithos]

Hm, but woudlnt that force me to use BC power pipes? i consider those quite inferior to redstone conduits.

im not sure if redstone blocks are in the current update.... if they are i might just use a few of those lol.

Not quite, you can also use the structure pipes (useless and filled with gravel) for that, and still have the strength of the gates, while actively using conduits for your actual energy and liquids.
That could still be a little easier to setup than block with redstone/wire.

Just saying that, because most people think that they have no way to use the cool gates just because they happen to use conduits.

 

[HeffronCM]

Structure pipes, gates, and facades make for some very aesthetically pleasing automated builds. Facades on their own are almost enough to make me want to use BC pipes rather than conduits or liquiducts. If only there were an RP2 api so coders could set their blocks as accepting of Redpower Covers.

 

[Abdiel]

Structure pipes, gates, and facades make for some very aesthetically pleasing automated builds. Facades on their own are almost enough to make me want to use BC pipes rather than conduits or liquiducts. If only there were an RP2 api so coders could set their blocks as accepting of Redpower Covers.

Eloraam once said something along the lines of "it's not about other blocks accepting covers, it's about covers accepting other blocks". So this is unlikely unless Eloraam hand-codes these pipes as special cases into RP.

To add to OP's question: remember that you can use jacketed wire to reach difficult places where you have nothing to put redstone on.

 

[bwillb]

Eloraam once said something along the lines of "it's not about other blocks accepting covers, it's about covers accepting other blocks". So this is unlikely unless Eloraam hand-codes these pipes as special cases into RP.

That sounds like BS, to be honest. Eloraam is a decent enough programmer that she could implement something like a "coverable" flag that others could hook onto if she really wanted to, she just doesn't want to.

Oh well, maybe we'll get a middleground and at least get facdes on liquiducts and conduits

 

[Juanitierno]

Im not sure how Elo implemented microblocks, but if im correct in my assumptions then other mods would have to base their pipes and cables off a RP entity, wich is not viable if you wnat a mod thats independent from RP.

To get coverable cables and such Elo would have to "donate" such entity to be included in forge and thus be available to everyone. She might not want to do that.

Back on topic, i know about the structure pipes and placing gates on them, i use that, but ewnated to avoid adding stuff to the boiler as much as possible, the jacketed wire was an excellent alternative i didnt think of, but i just ended up using a red alloy wire strip on the boiler adyacent to all engines.

I would still prefer the engines being more intelligent and configurable, like the TE ones

TE is such a great mod! TE + RP2 = happiness!

 

[DoctorOr]

This will prevent you from having to use a pipe for every engine. One pipe out the boiler feeding a line/cluster of engines.

For a very small boiler perhaps, but you need multiple connections to pull all the steam off. A 36HP uses either 5 or 7 (I can't remember which)[DOUBLEPOST=1360083216][/DOUBLEPOST]

Structure pipes, gates, and facades make for some very aesthetically pleasing automated builds. Facades on their own are almost enough to make me want to use BC pipes rather than conduits or liquiducts. If only there were an RP2 api so coders could set their blocks as accepting of Redpower Covers.

API from RedPower. Hahah, he made a funny!

King Lemming commented that something would come to cover conduits/liquiducts after the 1.5(?) update, I believe.

 

[Kocyk]

From Eloraam EAQ:

“Make cover plates work on X other mod”. It’s impossible. It’s not a matter of adding cover plates to another block type, but making a block type work inside cover plates. Covers require a huge amount of code, including a lot of custom rendering, and any blocks that use them have to be written, from the ground up, to make use of them. Anything using them would require RedPower Core to function, even if it was possible. So just use the RedPower equivalents.

Also it is known Elo don't like anyone else using her code.

 

[DoctorOr]

She says that, pretending RedPower has equivalents for everything (and that RP isn't a lag beast)

 

[Kocyk]

She had spent loads of time writing Forge Ore Dictionary, so if making covers applicable to other mods was worth the efford she would have already done it.

 

[KirinDave]

Also it is known Elo don't like anyone else using her code.

I love Elo's work, but this is exactly it. And, if you'll forgive my rant, the most charitable reading is either incredible hubris or deep insecurity. She could add it to Forge. Everyone would thank her, because everyone wants it. She could give someone else access to the codebase to make it happen if she's too busy with life. But she doesn't.

It's a good thing other people in the community understand what the spirit of software development is about, especially given how reasonable Mojang has been about things (e.g., it's incredible that people are allowed to take monetary donations for mods. It is an exception, not the rule.)

Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.