Getting started with trees (forestry / extra trees)

[keybounce]

So lets say I want to do some tree breeding. I have no interest in bees; I just want to breed up some decorative trees in survivial.

In the past (147? 164?), a glass building with some forestry tree leaves would generate so many butterflies that no bees were needed. But, in 1710, getting started, how do I get that first forestry tree? Or, how do I get that first forestry leaf?

I tried using botany flower soil, but all it produced was weeds and not butterflies (yes, there were flowers adjacent to the soil ... but no flower breeding happened.)

 

[rouge_bare]

If you really want to get the annoying flying things instead of the actually useful flying things, use a treealyaser, anaylser or a forestry farm to convert a vanilla sapling into a forestry one. (Sorry, but i hate butterflies. At least bees give you something for your trouble.)

 

[Azzanine]

Unfortunately tree breeding is heavily tied in to bees. As you need a certain type of bee to cross polinate the trees. I think it's the industrious line.
Unless that function has been totally given to butterflies. Even then don't they need a certain tier of tree?
If you had gendustry this process could be made easier.

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[keybounce]

Butterflies are useful. They give (or gave, at least, in .. 164?) you pollinated leaves, even if you started with vanilla leaves. Combine with an enclosed greenhouse, and you get all sorts of decorative wood at little to no effort.

Unless that function has been totally given to butterflies. Even then don't they need a certain tier of tree?

When I played with them in ... truthfully, I don't recall if it was 147, 152, or 164, they worked on any tree. There was even a rendering issue where a vanilla tree's leaves would change completely once it pollinated (I think that was caused by optifine + fast graphics + optifine fancy trees).

 

[rouge_bare]

Yes I know they can pollinate leaves, but that's literally all they do other than get everywhere when you using your favourite forestry trees for decoration.

Bees, at least if you are interested only in trees, need next-to-no effort to do either. You don't need to breed the bees to get them to breed trees, basic Meadows or Forests will do the job. At least you can breed bees that do give you something useful (even if you discount the extra bee species added by Extra and Magic Bees). You won't convince me to like forestry butterflies I'm afraid when I can get something out of it in addition to the wood.

(It's mostly due to butterflies getting everywhere that i've stopped breeding trees.)

 

[keybounce]

Hmm. Bees seemed to take a visit to their beehive every two minecraft days without a fairly massive hopper / chest / filtering system to remove all bee products / droppers / re-insertion system to put princesses and drones back in all the time.

... and even then, I can only guess at what happens where there's too many drones (I did not let it run that long.)
Ok, so it wasn't 147 if I was doing redstone like that.

Butterflies everywhere: Until we made an enclosed building, there were no butterflies to be found. This was with us opped, on a server for testing -- we had no problem getting forestry saplings and bonemealing them. As much as the trees were supposed to generate butterflies, I think I saw ONE. (I know I saw one. I don't think I ever saw a second)

Once a building was made, plenty. And, as far as I could tell from the config file comments, there's a limit on how many are made -- so with all of them in the greenhouse, there should be none going around in the "wild" -- which seemed to be the perfect setup for us at the time.