EU Transformers - Working Different Than I Thought?

[Bigglesworth]

So what the hell is up with these? Are they working correctly or is it a bug that the LV transformer can output 128EU/t and the MV can output 512? Seems strange to me as they are supposedly downsteping power to 128 and 32 EU/t respectively (or packets (EU/p) I should say?). No where did I read that the downsteping is divided into sub-tick packets. You can basically have a machine that wants 128EU/t in 32EU/packets and it can be fully powered by a single LV trans instead of four. I guess Im the last one to realize this?

 

[Mero]

Transformers change the packet sizes up or down one level.
So yes, going from 32 to 128 is intended behavior.

it doesn't change the amount of eu produced, it just collects enough to make a 128 eu packet before it sends it.

 

[Abdiel]

Yes, the LV transformer when given 128 EU/t input, will output four 32 EU packets every tick.

Read this thread for more info - read the whole thing, there is a bit of misguided information in the beginning.

 

[Bigglesworth]

Transformers change the packet sizes up or down one level.
So yes, going from 32 to 128 is intended behavior.

it doesn't change the amount of eu produced, it just collects enough to make a 128 eu packet before it sends it.

Meaning it collects 4 packets in one tick. The thing is this is misleading and confusing when generally it is known that LV is 32EU packets and really doesnt have anything to do with 32EU/t machines other than they might also require a max packet of the same size, and nowhere is it mentioned that transformers are capable of multiple packets to a max of 4 per tick. Therefor a LV 32EU/p trans can sent 128EU/t from a 512EU/t MV.

The block is being exposed to a redstone signal, this reverses the function of the transformer. Instead of down transforming, it up transforms.

No.

 

[Abdiel]

Meaning it collects 4 packets in one tick. The thing is this is misleading and confusing when generally it is known that LV is 32EU packets and really doesnt have anything to do with 32EU/t machines other than they might also require a max packet of the same size, and nowhere is it mentioned that transformers are capable of multiple packets to a max of 4 per tick. Therefor a LV 32EU/p trans can sent 128EU/t from a 512EU/t MV.

...yes. EU/t has very little to do with EU/p. It is easy to send multiple 32 EU packets down a wire in one tick, for example by connecting two batboxes. Therefore you will have 64 EU/t in 32 EU packets. Machines have two important statistics: the EU/t they consume, and the maximum EU packet they can handle. You can run a 128 EU/t machine by sending four packets of 32 EU every tick. And a machine capable of handling 32 EU will not explode even when connected to a cable with 128 EU/t going through it, if the EU is split in four 32 EU packets. You could technically run the entire output of a fusion reactor through a copper cable if you convert it all into 32 EU packets.

Yes it can be slightly confusing and very unrealistic, but that's how IC power works.

 

[Bigglesworth]

Yes, the LV transformer when given 128 EU/t input, will output four 32 EU packets every tick.

Read this thread for more info - read the whole thing, there is a bit of misguided information in the beginning.

Thanks glad im not the only one that was confused.

Seems to be how trans work is simplified thus:

HV is a 2048 EU/t (max) input device that splits the 2048 into 4 bitesize 512EU/t packets.
MV is a 512 EU/t (max) input device that splits the 512 into 4 bitesize 128EU/t packets.
LV is a 128 EU/t (max) input device that splits the 128 into 4 bitesize 32EU/t packets.

All in all a bit happier with this way of looking at it. i only have to make 1/4th the trans i thought i did.

 

[Abdiel]

That's exactly how (I understand, and all my experiments show) it works.

The only exception is that the HV transformer can accept any packet size. It will only use 2048 EU from it though, so if you have something producing more than that (high yield nuclear reactor or a fusion reactor), you will need more than one HV transformer to consume all the power. But you can send, say, a 4096 EU packet through a superconductor to two HV transformers, it will not burn them, and they will produce four 512 EU packets each per tick.

 

[Bigglesworth]

That makes sense, as there isnt a UV transformer afaik. Would suck to have the highest tier blow up after 2048.

 

[Abdiel]

There is a Supercondensator in GT, which transforms 100000 EU packets into 2048 EU ones (or the other way around), but it isn't really needed. Even in vanilla IC2 you can get more than 2048 EU per packet with nuclear reactors, that's why the HV transformer works this way.