Bee Database empty?

[Saice]

Anyone have this issue?


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So went out into the world with a metric butt tone of scoops and collected so many bees my bee bag was stuffed. Paid a nice villager for a bunch of honey so I could analyze them all. But after I've done that I figured HEY I should get one of them database thingies to help. But yeah what am I doing wrong here that it is empty?

 

[Icarus White]

Oh, that's simple, actually:

The bees will not be recorded into your database until you stuff them into an Apiary - the bees will then be added as they pop back out, no beenalysis required. (Also, all worldgen bees of a given species have exactly the same stats, and new mutations will always result in a certain combination of stats on the mutated 'chromosome' - beenalysis is really more for hybrids.)
On a side note, you can make your own Untreated Frames- they'll have to be replaced more often than Proven Frames, but they're much cheaper and give the same bonus to honey yield, which is very important for Beenalysis.

(You did buy an Apiary, right? You'll also need a (Forestry, not GT) Centrifuge to spin out the honey. Making your own Apiaries also requires a Squeezer and Carpenter.)

(Also, Apiaries MUST be broken with a pickaxe - try to axe it and you'll lose it.)

Also, be aware that the Database isn't working completely properly yet - the Mindcrack version, 1.4.9.12, will show you the colors of the bees in undiscovered Mutations, but not whether you've discovered the bee species; the latest version, 1.4.9.14, hides the colors and shows whether you've discovered them or not, but apparently pre-rewrite the Database also showed which branch the bees were in, something very helpful that Binnie is presumably working on putting back in.

 

[Saice]

Oh, that's simple, actually:

The bees will not be recorded into your database until you stuff them into an Apiary - the bees will then be added as they pop back out, no beenalysis required. (Also, all worldgen bees of a given species have exactly the same stats, and new mutations will always result in a certain combination of stats on the mutated 'chromosome' - beenalysis is really more for hybrids.)
On a side note, you can make your own Untreated Frames- they'll have to be replaced more often than Proven Frames, but they're much cheaper and give the same bonus to honey yield, which is very important for Beenalysis.

Yeah I have like a stack of Proven frames right now. The villages I found often had looping deals. One would what wood or wheat for gems easy to get I would them use them to buy stuff from the bee guy (and loot his back yard).

(You did buy an Apiary, right? You'll also need a (Forestry, not GT) Centrifuge to spin out the honey. Making your own Apiaries also requires a Squeezer and Carpenter.)

(Also, Apiaries MUST be broken with a pickaxe - try to axe it and you'll lose it.).

Yeah built, bought, or stole all those things. I have about 30 Apiaries from the Bee guys back yards or trading them for wood.

Also, be aware that the Database isn't working completely properly yet - the Mindcrack version, 1.4.9.12, will show you the colors of the bees in undiscovered Mutations, but not whether you've discovered the bee species; the latest version, 1.4.9.14, hides the colors and shows whether you've discovered them or not, but apparently pre-rewrite the Database also showed which branch the bees were in, something very helpful that Binnie is presumably working on putting back in.

Thanks for all the info I had been avoiding guides like the plague and look forward to exploring bees on my own as much as I can. Once I pump all the water out from my soon to be farm area. I'm under the sea.

 

[Icarus White]

Have fun exploring the bees, for sure: some of the Extra Bees are just plain ridiculous, and even Sengir's bees can do some very powerful things.

For instance - and this is on Sengir's wiki, so it isn't exactly a spoiler [EDIT: hidden just in case, highlight to read] - Sengir's hell branch can effectively produce glowstone and lava, and the desert branch can produce gunpowder, creeper-free.

As a free hint regarding all those marbled bees (minor spoiler, but extremely tiny; highlight to read):
yes, marbled bees are ridiculously easy to find. That doesn't mean the Marbled bees' branch is particularly easy to progress - you'll need something very advanced in Sengir's line to do it.
And once you get sick of running around replacing Untreated Frames, try Impregnated Frames - no more effective at producing honey, but apparently last longer. Hope you have a wheat farm, though!

 

[Saice]

And once you get sick of running around replacing Untreated Frames, try Impregnated Frames - no more effective at producing honey, but apparently last longer. Hope you have a wheat farm, though!

I do not have a big issues with frames I have a couple of bee guys locked up in a village I can visit when I run low on Proven frames (or at least thats my plan) and I plan on making a bee line for the Avalary because I'm in the middle of the ocean until I get that I am limited to bees that work in normal/normal or Hellish/normal (neither portal). Unless I want to use one of them advance machines that acclimates the bee. (I've been looking at NEI and building machines and poking their GUIs)

 

[Icarus White]

Protip: alvearies can't fix humidity. So you'll have to go find a swamp or something for a damp biome.

Also, even acclimated bees won't produce specialties if they're in the wrong conditions, so getting yourself some silk wisps for Apiarist's clothes might be problematic. Scratch that, silky wisps are comb products, never mind.
(Why do you want the clothes? Well, if you find some tropicals, or discover the hellish branch, you'll find out very, very quickly...)

 

[Saice]

Protip: alvearies can't fix humidity. So you'll have to go find a swamp or something for a damp biome.

Weird of all things for it not to work with humidity is something that is easy to fix in real life.