[1.5.2] Bee-powered reactor?

[iarspider]

I've decided I need to do something weird, namely - a Nuclear Reactor that only uses bees (as opposed to MassFabricating or mining) to supply it with the materials (Uranium or Lapis or ...) it needs to run 24/7. Is it achievable?
To make things easier:

• No Gregtech
• The bees have the best traits (longest, fastest, flyer, diurnal, nocturnal, cave); they work in an Alveary with 4x frames.
• Each bee species occupies only one alveary (i.e. no 2 alvearies have the same bee).

 

[tedyhere]

I would suggest checking out Ako the builder on Youtubes. IF I recall correctly he is setting up a bee system to give all the materials to run his nuclear reactor.

 

[iarspider]

Well, he's playing Unleashed => Gregtech. I haven't yet check if he actually does the reactor GT-way or IC2-way.

 

[MilConDoin]

Radioactive Bee produces a Radioactive Comb with 2% chance and each comb has a 50% chance to contain Uranium Ore (item) => combine to 1%.
Fastest trait with 4x frames for 16x speed give overall 27.2% chance to produce an Uranium Ore (item) every 27.5 seconds => one Uranium Ore (item) every ~101 seconds. One Uranium Cell lasts 10000 seconds. In that time ~98 ore are produced. This should be enough for a nice power output.
If you want to use dual or quad cells, you also need quite some copper.
- With a Cuprum Bee you produce nuggets, 9 are needed per ingot. 20% base chance is easily boostable to 100% with only 3 frames. So every 9 bee ticks (247.5 seconds) you get one ingot.
- With a Corroded Bee you produce grains, 4 are needed per ingot. 6% base chance are boostable to 100% with fastest trait and 4 frames. So every 4 bee ticks (110 seconds) you get one ingot. You'll produce slightly more ore than you produce copper (~90 ingots). 40 ingots are needed per quad cell, so your reactor can contain 2 quad cells per Corroded Bee.

Since you have such an abundance of uranium, you can use several low efficiency reactors like http://www.talonfiremage.pwp.blueyo...eui88n9rugprmkrtudadhjen3vhf71bhnhta75eef4we8 without problems (quickly cobbled together, there are probably way better reactors using only single cells available).

 

[draeath]

It's not as simple as 0.02 * 0.5 = 0.01, probability doesn't work that way.

That said it's still a pretty tiny chance...

 

[Eunomiac]

Radioactive Bee produces a Radioactive Comb with 2% chance and each comb has a 50% chance to contain Uranium Ore (item) => combine to 1%.

It's not as simple as 0.02 * 0.5 = 0.01, probability doesn't work that way.

Hmm, you sure? Sounds about right to me: If there's a 50/50 chance that a Radioactive Comb will contain Uranium Ore, then (as an average over time) you're producing Uranium Ore at half the rate you're producing Radioactive Combs: 1%. Put another way, after my Radioactive Bees get 1000 chances, I can expect roughly 20 Radioactive Combs. And roughly half of these---i.e. 10---will centrifuge to Uranium. 10 Uranium out of 1000 chances is a 1% production rate.

 

[Azzanine]

You will need a LOT of bees to make this viable...

 

[TDarkShadow]

I actually see this doable. Your only problem would be to have a good set-up to start with.
You will need atleast 20-30 of every queen of the materials.
Not to mention alot of pipes, cables and such to keep the reactor cooled or auto-shutdown.

 

[draeath]

Hmm, you sure? Sounds about right to me

I am fairly sure. Remember those free Stanford classes? I had tried to take one on A.I. and repeatedly ran into this problem when probability came up. The way it works is not intuitive at all. I wish I could recall enough detail to explain, but I don't think it really matters in this case as the difference would not be very large.

 

[iarspider]

I am fairly sure. Remember those free Stanford classes? I had tried to take one on A.I. and repeatedly ran into this problem when probability came up. The way it works is not intuitive at all. I wish I could recall enough detail to explain, but I don't think it really matters in this case as the difference would not be very large.

Well, I'm pretty sure the events "Bee produces radioactive comb" (C) and "Radioactive comb produced Uranium when centrifuged" (U) can be considered statistically independent, and thus the probability of (C and U) is just P(C) * P(U). I've even checked with my roommate (he is very good at Statistics).

 

[draeath]

Ah, righty then! Glad to have that sorted. My pitfall advisory was false, but isn't it better to know than not?

 

[MigukNamja]

I like this idea. It's a good goal and will be a worthy accomplishment. My last map, I took my bees as far as diamond, gold, copper, and tin. I'm looking forward to breeding bees again this world ;-)