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I like your style. Make it happen!

It actually outputs exactly the same amount of MJ per steam, he used the steam>mj ratio given by railcraft to set the value for steam. You get a ton more EU than a turbine though.

If you want to get liquids out with a wooden waterproof pipe you need some kind of engine. Redstone engine or autarchic gate work just fine.

I did look it up, at M-W no less. "effective operation as measured by a comparison of production with cost (as in energy, time, and money)" no mention of over a shortened time interval here. Just straight cost compared to operation. "the ratio of the useful energy delivered by a dynamic...

I assume my audience is familiar with proper English and use proper English. If my audience is not, that is unfortunately not something I will consider. You are not going to win an argument if your stance is that we should assume our audience does not know the language we are using well enough...

You seem to have problems with the definition of efficiency. Unqualified the word efficiency means simply fuel in to power out. If you wish to limit the time you are applying this equation to, *you* need qualifiers, he does not wish to limit this beyond what he did by saying it takes 19 hours...

But efficiency by default means overall lifetime. Your sentence means the exact same thing as mine. You just seem to not want to admit that. When you want to consider only a part of the efficiency equation you add qualifiers (in your case minute-to minute, once heated). I do not need any...

Ok, so "overall lifetime" is meaningless there. Efficiency is not exclusionary by default. You need qualifiers if you want to exclude things. So, when considering efficiency very large boilers are the wrong choice in SSP. We clear?

What is "everything" if lifetime performance is not it? How do you define considering "everything"?

You are missing the fact that if you are using all the biofuel you are producing (if not, why not just do combustion engines anyway, you are over-producing enough that efficiency does not matter) you need the full amount to get through heatup before you ever start the boiler. Heatup takes 5.5...

This discussion is not about what I am doing. It is about the optimal solution for SSP. I am not disagreeing with "your" assessment, you just re-stated the math I already did. 5 hours before production starts and 15 hours to payoff is a very long time in SSP.

If you want to talk footprint you are using the wrong farm and biofuel production methods. (At least on Ultimate). I can get several thousand MJ worth of fuel out of 2 chunks of farms (not stacked) and support equipment. (requiring about 300 MJ to keep everything running). Sure using all that...

Again my response is that if it takes you 5 hours to get a boiler ready... I do not know how that is even possible. EDIT: Also your statement is akin to "People have already decided they must use boilers, have adapted their playstyle already, and so your argument is not relevant"

I can burn things. The moment my fuel chain is done. That is why I set them up at the same time as the fuel chain. Your question is so nonsensical that I am not sure how to answer it. I could counter by saying "What is the point of setting up farms if you have nothing to burn the products yet?"...

Is the server down or is it just me?

Response, remember, SSP. I grind all of my materials at once, saving travel time. I set up my farm and engines at the same time, and begin producing the moment they are finished. Also, If it takes you 5 hours of actual play time to gather materials for a boiler... idk what to say. 2nd situation...

Double posting to make a minor addendum. Further, lets consider the fact that if I am there i can switch on and off my engines with the combustion solution. Lets say my big energy draw is extra bees machines. This means I can build 3X MJ/t in engines, only turn most of them on when I use my...

Ok, so here efficiency matters. The moment my farms are up I can add X mj/t in combustion engines. If I want to go to a boiler solution though I first have to wait ~5.5 hours to build enough to get through heatup, then I get to turn on ~1.5X MJ/t In max size boilers. Over the next 5.5 hours my...

How does 5 hours of play time where you sit on your bum and do not use power "not matter' this is the time to make the stockpile, not to use it. I am getting things done. I am smelting, I am running quarrys, etc. You are not. If you are running combustion engines there is no need to build up a...