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Updated with proof-of-concept demonstration re: turtles who receive coordinates and build things.

Interesting that you infer I'm the only person to have misunderstood anything. I'll leave the RR circle-jerk now. You should take a glance through this thread. It's mostly RR posters claiming to have objectivity and credibility. It's like junior high all over again. I'm sure there's an...

Splitting hairs much? It's NOT a good idea to just keep adding and adding and adding. That's just common sense with validity and implications way beyond modded Minecraft. If you've got something that's already unwieldy and you must add to it, do it for a damn good reason. So arguing a...

I'm not sure how I could be more clear. We have a pack. It's called the Ultimate Pack. It has a lot of potential, and it has a lot of issues. It has a lot of problematic fluff mods. It has a lot of key mods that can create crippling performance issues or crashes under a variety of situations. So...

Trouble is, you and others keep declaring certain statements as "logical and factual" arbitrarily. It may be a fact, but being a fact doesn't make it relevant. Because bacon, and we all know the significance of bacon to this topic. And "because I said so" is not sufficient to label something...

When I see new faces contributing to the discussion, I'll respond as I see fit. Given the number of RR people cycling through {redacted innappropriate comment} "no one cares" is hardly a credible statement.

When it includes a request for subs, it's an ad.

It's not user error. It's a reflection on what happens when you build on a large scale, hence my previous comments about pushing mods to their limit. It doesn't matter how many people you have on what kind of server. What matters is what they're doing on that server. And my experience is...

You're still not grasping it. I'm not talking about what MIGHT be. I'm talking about what IS. And the simple message you keep arguing against is to sort out the Ultimate pack before adding anything else. I'm at a loss to understand how you're failing repeatedly to get a handle on that. You...

You're rationalizing. That's not objectivity. The question, specifically, was about adding mods to Ultimate. I responded to the question specifically. It's not complicated. Trying to make it complicated doesn't suddenly undermine my position. The Ultimate pack...of which we only have a...

Except that I can still point to the Ultimate pack which is loaded with issues. Whatever RR was based on, it's not based on the Ultimate pack if it's beyond 1.4.7. This isn't about, "Is it possible to make a bloated mod pack without the issues currently associated with Ultimate." It's, "Would it...

That's not the Ultimate pack, nor is it a beta for the Ultimate pack. We were told very specifically that the beta packs are independent of any other packs. There is no 1.5.2 Ultimate pack.

There is no 1.5.2 Ultimate pack. Regardless of what you might think you can present, if it's not related to what we currently have it's not relevant to the discussion.

I made an assertion, and he responded with irrelevant facts. I've explained my point of view, and the hours I've spent diagnosing problems in the Ultimate pack as it stands without even more mods added in to compound the issue. What more should I have to say? Why should I have to repeat...

Let's just be clear; regardless of which option you choose, smaller resolution equates to a reduction in quality, and anything involving a lot of motion isn't likely to get much compression regardless of which codec you use. The end result is that smaller file size for faster uploads defeats the...

Because the mods don't just sit idle waiting for their turn to play. It's not just a hollow list of mod names until you find a bug. All of the mods are loaded and the more you have, the harder it becomes to find problems when they arise. Which already arise enough with the Ultimate pack. u...

I'm noticing a trend with you. It doesn't matter what is being discussed, for you the world revolves around RR. I'm talking about another mod pack being merged with the FTB Ultimate pack and now it's all about RR and the RR testers and blah blah blah. I've got no patience for the "rah rah...

I've already assembled my own mods and started a new world, and I already told you I had shelved Ultimate until 1.6. You're not testing with people who push mods to their limit. If you were, you'd have a much more accurate view of how problematic bloated packs really can be.

It's pretty clear that you're not responding to the topic specifically and instead defending bloated mod packs because you have an investment in the topic, and I'm not interested in that discussion. From the sounds of things, what the FTB team does or does not do with the Ultimate pack will...

Not just talking about crashes. Mods that are poorly optimized, or that have persistent bugs that rob processing bandwidth, when used alongside other mods that are poorly optimized or have persistent bugs that rob processing bandwidth, coupled with fringe-case fatal bugs, optimized elements used...