Need Help, losing all biomass over night

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Raefar

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First off thank you in advance guys,

Now to the issue; I am currently running 2 HP36s' off a 6 layer reed farm, I know I could use a lot less however I plan on adding a few more boilers. My issue is every night when I log off (this being a server) and come back in the morning my biomass tank is empty, after playing for a few hours its back to full again. At first I believed it was due to a chunk loader/quarry being in the area however there is not one. Also I am about 1500 blocks from my closest neighbor.

At this point Im at my wits end trying to figure this one out.
 

Ako_the_Builder

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Your base is chunk loaded though right? (questioning due to how your post is worded) and if so is your server config set to allow chunks to remain loaded when players are offfline? (on by default, admin can change)
 

Raefar

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I'll have to check on that, however I used to not have this problem. Also if it was stating loaded wouldn't my reed farm still function even tho Im not there? Lastly are there any other devices that act as a chunk loader besides quarries?
 

Mash

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Well, I'm a little confused.

If his base isn't chunk loaded, then how is his biomass tank draining? That sounds more like his biomass tank/boilers are chunkloaded, but his reed farm is not. Or his tank is glitchy. Or something weird.
 

Ako_the_Builder

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Chunk loading allows your base to operate as if you're there when you're elsewhere, so machines run, plants grow etc even when you're offline. As you stated quarries auto load the chunks they're in, I think I read that rp2 pipes will load unloaded chunks that tubes from a loaded chunk are feeding into and there maybe other similar systems.

Then of course there are actual chunk loaders, such as the chunk loader that you can set to a desired amount of chunks.
 

Raefar

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So it kinda sounds like my boilers are still being loaded but my feed farm is not. So my best bet then would be to make a chunk loader at the first lvl of the reed farm and hope for the best.
 

Technician

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Likely your reedfarm isn't getting loaded and so your bio tank drains out.

Refine biomass to biofuel too btw. Better for ya!

Darn ninjas.
 

Mash

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I'd just make a chunk loader that covers your entire base and call it good there.

No sense taking chances, and unless your base is massively large, it should cover it.
 

Raefar

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Funny thing tho, my reed farm is located right below my boiler... well about 20 blocks down...
 

Mash

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Just make a chunk loader and cover your base with it.

If it keeps doing it, bump the thread, and we can brainstorm why Cthulhu doesn't want you to have biomass.
 

Dkittrell

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Where are your tanks at? Are they in the same chunk as your reed and boiler? If your boilers are operating and draining your tanks then the chunk is loaded, since the reed farm directly above your boiler then the reed farm should still be loaded. Something you can try is breaking a block on your tank and putting it back so resets the tank and also same thing with your boiler( never built one so not sure if its one block or multiple) sometimes machines bug out and so weird things . I personally don't like to leave chunkloader on all the time as it causes lag if to many are on the sever because so many chunks are loaded
 

TangentialThreat

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Same setup only with Steve's Cart's making biomass instead of reeds, same problem. The boilers continue to use biofuel when not chunkloaded, contrary to all reason and logic.

Many things (tubes, portals) can act as chunkloaders but none of the usual suspects were near my boiler room. I had a theory that it was my PowerConverters rig (steam to EU and MJ) acting as an undocumented chunkloader, but rather than apply science I just plopped down a chunkloader that covered the whole base and called it good.
 

Mash

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Same setup only with Steve's Cart's making biomass instead of reeds, same problem. The boilers continue to use biofuel when not chunkloaded, contrary to all reason and logic.

Many things (tubes, portals) can act as chunkloaders but none of the usual suspects were near my boiler room. I had a theory that it was my PowerConverters rig (steam to EU and MJ) acting as an undocumented chunkloader, but rather than apply science I just plopped down a chunkloader that covered the whole base and called it good.

If this is the deal, then you simply need to find a way to automate the process entirely and chunkload your entire base like this chap did.

I've never heard of boilers using fuel while not chunkloaded... but then, I've never used boilers in multiplayer.
 

Raefar

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Thank You for all the advise guys, Ill try everything and get back to you. Its just a little unsettling losing 3.2mill biomass every night.
 

Mash

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Are your boilers cooled off all the way each morning? Probably should have asked this first, to be honest.

Because if so, that certainly would explain how it's going through so much fuel. Boilers use a massive amount of fuel while heating up. Their fuel efficiency is ghastly at low temperatures. Ghastly, I tell you.
 

Raefar

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No Boilers are still at 1000c every morning and the biofuel tank is always full and so are the stills.
 

Mash

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Okay, I'm confused, now.

Are we talking about biomass, or biofuel? There is quite a large difference. You said that in the morning when you log back on, your biomass tank is empty.
 

TangentialThreat

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If this is the deal, then you simply need to find a way to automate the process entirely and chunkload your entire base like this chap did.

I've never heard of boilers using fuel while not chunkloaded... but then, I've never used boilers in multiplayer.

The process was 100% automated, but the automation was far away and presumably out of range of the anomaly.

I did leave it too long once and then had to jumpstart both boilers from 20 C. Then I just said screw dealing with this bug and got a chunkloader.
 

Neirin

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If you're storing your biomass in a xycraft tank and it's near a wrath lamp, it will bug out. I'm not sure if this also applies to RC tanks, but it's something to consider.
 

Raefar

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Ok is seems some people would like a little more info on the setup. I have a 21x21 room that goes alway down to bedrock, at the top of this hole I have my boiler room. The boiler room has 2 HP36 boils and 2 7x7x8 tanks, one has biomass and the other biofuel. The next lvl down has 8 stills, 2 fermenters, 3 auto autocrafting table and a pulverizer take make biomass and bio-fuel completly automated. Below this is a 6 layer reed farm and a wheat farm to make dirt.