What to do with creosote

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In Regrowth 1.7.10, I'm generating quite a lot of creosote oil from an automated coke oven system. I have need of a large amount of power, as well as a way to get rid of the stuff, so I was thinking about using combustion engines to kill 2 birds with one stone. Turns out that Buildcraft combustion engines don't accept creosote, and I don't have very much oil at my disposal. I need more power than what industrial steam engines can provide, that can be powered by a renewable resource, like creosote. I understand that the BC combustion engines can be run off of lava, but I'm not aware of any way to transport lava easily from the Nether to the overworld. Trying to mass produce lava with fire essence and buckets seems impractical and overly difficult, because I don't know how I would get it out of the buckets into a tank to be used. Can anyone tell me how I could utilize the creosote I have stored, produce infinite lava and store it, or how to transport it from the Nether?
 

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I want more power so that I can power Mekanism lol. I'm going to be using Forestry multi farms to create pretty much everything within Magical Crops. Metals are going to be quintupled with the Mekanism setup, and stored for later use in Jabba barrels maxed out with storage upgrades. I just found a very good and very simple way to transport lava from the Nether. Liquid transposers, color coded ender chests, and some personal anchors.

Pump lava into the transposer in the Nether. Have buckets being piped into the transposer to be filled, then sent through an ender chest to the corresponding ender chest in the overworld. Transpose the lava out of the buckets. Pump the lava into storage, and send the buckets back to the Nether through its corresponding ender chest. Sounds pretty simple in theory. I think I'll go put it to the test now.
 

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I want more power so that I can power Mekanism lol. I'm going to be using Forestry multi farms to create pretty much everything within Magical Crops. Metals are going to be quintupled with the Mekanism setup, and stored for later use in Jabba barrels maxed out with storage upgrades. I just found a very good and very simple way to transport lava from the Nether. Liquid transposers, color coded ender chests, and some personal anchors.

Pump lava into the transposer in the Nether. Have buckets being piped into the transposer to be filled, then sent through an ender chest to the corresponding ender chest in the overworld. Transpose the lava out of the buckets. Pump the lava into storage, and send the buckets back to the Nether through its corresponding ender chest. Sounds pretty simple in theory. I think I'll go put it to the test now.
If you're got ender chests, why can't you use endertanks? They'll even auto-output if you click the little dial on the front.

In answer to the original question, I'm not aware of any application of creosote other than Railcraft railroad ties or burning it in a liquid-fueled RC steam boiler.
 

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Why?

Steam is an intrinsic part of a lot of end game power systems including nuclear. The fuel is creosote.
Except when the modpack you're playing doesn't have a nuclear option.

OP is probably saying steam power is not enough.
 

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It isn't going to work. I don't have liquid transposers or the color coded ender chests in the mod pack. I thought I did.
 

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sgbros1, you suggested using Mekanism earlier. What was your idea with that? I could use steam power to get my lava with a Mekanism machine, then just upgrade the engine powering it to a combustion engine once I have a few buckets.
 

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Have creosote and boilers, but want to go backward to lava power... :confused:
 

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Lava powering combustion engines. Combustion engines are better than industrial steam engines right?
 

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Lava powering combustion engines. Combustion engines are better than industrial steam engines right?
AFAIK Lava in a Combustion engine is crap... It produces very little power. In most mods lava power is the "starter power" that people use before they gather materials to start building better stuff.

And if you supply Industrial Steam Engines with steam from a Boiler they are MUCH more efficient than pretty much anything else.
 
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Lava powering combustion engines. Combustion engines are better than industrial steam engines right?
Euh, not as I recall. Granted, my information is fairly outdated (but hopefully still accurate); but last time I checked, combustion engines produce 1 MJ/t = 10 RF/t when running on lava. Industrial steam engines, by contrast, produce 8 MJ/t = 80 RF/t, eight times as much.

Magmatic dynamos from Thermal Expansion produce 80 RF/t as well if I remember correctly; however, I'm fairly sure TE isn't in Regrowth.

While I haven't played Regrowth and about all I know about it is from Direwolf20's current series, your best bet for renewable power might be a golem-based tree farm or Magical Crops coal farm powering a Railcraft boiler. As you've found, using coke ovens to produce the charcoal/coke gives creosote oil as a byproduct, which can be fed into another steam boiler to get a little more power, if you're producing it fast enough.
 
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Ya I'm trying to power my 3 ISEs that power my coal farm with steam. At first it was very inefficient because I had only one pipe supplying steam to all 3. Now I have each of them on an individual pipe, with ISEs powering the emerald extraction pipes. For whatever reason though, they barely get anything. They might get up to 40 rf/t for a second and then drop down to 13. I'm pretty sure its because I have each pipe line supplying 2 engines, the extraction pipe and the pipe to the engine powering the farm, and how far the steam has to travel, despite using golden pipes all the way down. I'm thinking of building a liquid fueled boiler much closer to them and pipe in the creosote I have stored up into it. I have over 20 thousand buckets of creosote stored. It's beginning to become an issue. Building more and more iron tanks would take up a lot of space and a lot of resources.
 

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If you filled up one tank and still have not found a way to use it: Waterproof Void Pipe...

And look... Why on earth go through bother of transporting steam from your boiler all the way out to your farms? You have Charcoal/Coke, use that to power the farms(Forestry farm don't require much power anyway). Then use the Steam locally to power whatever big jobs that need it.
 

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Ya I'm trying to power my 3 ISEs that power my coal farm with steam. At first it was very inefficient because I had only one pipe supplying steam to all 3. Now I have each of them on an individual pipe, with ISEs powering the emerald extraction pipes. For whatever reason though, they barely get anything. They might get up to 40 rf/t for a second and then drop down to 13. I'm pretty sure its because I have each pipe line supplying 2 engines, the extraction pipe and the pipe to the engine powering the farm, and how far the steam has to travel, despite using golden pipes all the way down. I'm thinking of building a liquid fueled boiler much closer to them and pipe in the creosote I have stored up into it. I have over 20 thousand buckets of creosote stored. It's beginning to become an issue. Building more and more iron tanks would take up a lot of space and a lot of resources.
Try placing your steam engines directly on the face of the boiler, and then just transporting the power wherever you need it (unless you want to buffer steam for peak consumption). Failing that (i.e. if you're short on redstone, but have plenty of gold), each engine might need two separate lines of pipes going all the way from the boiler to the engines. It's been too long since I've played with BC+RC for me to remember how many pipe lines are needed, although I vaguely remember reading about some BC addon that added an even faster fluid pipe that I want to say was able to fully supply an industrial steam engine with only one line of pipes. I don't remember very clearly, though; maybe it was two engines per pipe line.

Research time!
According to Railcraft's wiki, the industrial steam engine requires 40 mB/t of steam in order to produce the full 80 RF/t.
Documentation on Buildcraft is hard to find; however, a couple of sources peg the golden pipe's throughput at 80 mB/t, enough to fully supply two ISEs. For some reason, I remember the reverse of this being the case- two lines of pipes being required per engine- but apparently that's been changed.

So, my guess is that either you're not producing enough steam, in which case add more fireboxes and/or tanks to your boiler, or you've got a bottleneck somewhere in your pipe line. Do you have a wooden fluid pipe connecting to your boiler, by any chance? If so, there's your problem. Remove it and replace it with a gold pipe. The boiler outputs steam automatically.
 

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I'm trying to get so much power to the farm because I thought by now that I would have a faster way to extract items out of it. I want the farm to operate as quickly as possible. It uses power each time it harvests something. I want that power usage to be replaced immediately so that it can harvest the entire farm at once. As it stands, no one has suggested a way to extract items out of the farm faster, and I haven't found a way on my own yet.