[Rotarycraft] Does not Compute

[Fyuiy]

Whatever I do I cannot understand Roatrycraft I've looked through the book countless times and I still don't understand it. So my question to you all is how do I start, what is the power system, and how do I assemble those machines I've saw on videos which they explain but I still do not understand. Thanks in advance!

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[Padfoote]

The power system is based around rad/s (speed), and Nm (torque). Multiply those together for W (power). Machines have a minimum power requirement, and many will often have a minimum torque or speed requirement as well.

I start with a fermenter and power that with a DC engine. This creates ethanol crystals, which can be used to fuel a gasoline engine and power a grinder, giving you 3x ore processing and the ability to create lubricant for gearboxes and other pieces of equipment that need it. I'll let someone else cover from that point on, since I'm having a hard time remembering it right now.

 

[Fyuiy]

The power system is based around rad/s (speed), and Nm (torque). Multiply those together for W (power). Machines have a minimum power requirement, and many will often have a minimum torque or speed requirement as well.

I start with a fermenter and power that with a DC engine. This creates ethanol crystals, which can be used to fuel a gasoline engine and power a grinder, giving you 3x ore processing and the ability to create lubricant for gearboxes and other pieces of equipment that need it. I'll let someone else cover from that point on, since I'm having a hard time remembering it right now.

Oh ok, thanks for clearing it up a bit, once I'm able to get on my computer I'll give it a try

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[Padfoote]

Oh ok, thanks for clearing it up a bit, once I'm able to get on my computer I'll give it a try

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If you ever get stuck just ask questions here. There are plenty of RotaryCraft users here that can help, and each of us go about it in a different way.

 

[eric167]

The power system is based around rad/s (speed), and Nm (torque). Multiply those together for W (power). Machines have a minimum power requirement, and many will often have a minimum torque or speed requirement as well.

I start with a fermenter and power that with a DC engine. This creates ethanol crystals, which can be used to fuel a gasoline engine and power a grinder, giving you 3x ore processing and the ability to create lubricant for gearboxes and other pieces of equipment that need it. I'll let someone else cover from that point on, since I'm having a hard time remembering it right now.

I generally start off with steam engines instead of DC.
chain 4 together to run the grinder, another two for basic fermenter automation, one for the pump to supply water to everything.
my personal next step was a solar tower for the extractor. lost the world in a crash a short time later, so that's as far as I got.

 

[Padfoote]

I generally start off with steam engines instead of DC.
chain 4 together to run the grinder, another two for basic fermenter automation, one for the pump to supply water to everything.
my personal next step was a solar tower for the extractor. lost the world in a crash a short time later, so that's as far as I got.

A perfect example of two people starting RotaryCraft differently. How fast were the fermenters running? They're already fairly fast with DC engines.

 

[eric167]

A perfect example of two people starting RotaryCraft differently. How fast were the fermenters running? They're already fairly fast with DC engines.

um. . . forgot the exact vale, but "decently fast"

 

[Fyuiy]

If you ever get stuck just ask questions here. There are plenty of RotaryCraft users here that can help, and each of us go about it in a different way.

Will do

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[madnewmy]

wrote a small guide about it, you can check it in my signature

Most part need some update but the core part is still fairly good

 

[Cptqrk]

hey @madnewmh when you click on the link for your TiCo guide it shows this:

This article may require cleanup to meet this wiki's quality standards. The specific problem is: This guide is not yet formatted.
You can help us by improving it. Learn how here. (2014 February)

 

[madnewmy]

hey @madnewmh when you click on the link for your TiCo guide it shows this:

I know, it's been 3 months now xd

 

[Reika]

Do note that RotaryCraft has a rigid and fairly unforgiving tiering system, so if something seems absurdly expensive, slow, or just painful, chances are you are attempting it too early in the techtree.

 

[Azzanine]

You start with a blast furnace to produce HSLA steel, you then use some of that steel to make a worktable. You will then want a grinder, a steam engine and a worm gear to convert some of the speed in to torque to make the grinder function. Grind canola seeds to get your preliminary lube, you might want 7 or so buckets, could probably get away with less but beginners will waste a lot of lube.
When you have sufficient lube you can start using gearboxes which require lube or they degrade and eventually break (they can be repaired by right clicking on the gearbox with a gear of it's material type). Make a wood/ stone 4:1 ratio gearbox and replace the worm gear as it's unbearably slow due to how it divides the engine output speed by 16 to multiply the torque. The 4:1 gearbox will shave about 5-7 seconds off the operation time of the grinder.

Gearboxes work by multiplying either torque or speed and dividing it's counterpart.
For Eg. A 2:1 ratio gearbox when set to speed will half the torque but double the speed so if you had an engine with 10 rad/s and 10 Nm of torque, setting the gearbox to speed will give you 20 rad/s and reduce the torque to 5 (take note that power wont be multiplical by 10. it Sticks to a 8,16,32 kind of format ect, at least engines that are not variable like hydro and solar).

Gearboxes are IMO a deceptively large portion of RoC's game and they are incredibly important to learn to master. As you will get to a point where you will be wondering what engine to use for a machine, you will be like "Hmm this machine needs X rad/s and Y Nm to operate but there's no one engine with X and Y values... what do?" chances are you need to figure out what engine can be geared up to suit your purposes.

Essentially learn gearboxes and you have learned how to RoC 100% the rest is just embelishment as frankly power gen in RoC is the same as it is in many other mods.

 

[Fyuiy]

Do note that RotaryCraft has a rigid and fairly unforgiving tiering system, so if something seems absurdly expensive, slow, or just painful, chances are you are attempting it too early in the techtree.

Thanks for the note Reika, and I'm starting it today, been a bit busy, thanks for the help everyone, update you guys when I get started.

 

[Omicron]

You start with a blast furnace to produce HSLA steel, you then use some of that steel to make a worktable. You will then want a grinder, a steam engine and a worm gear to convert some of the speed in to torque to make the grinder function. Grind canola seeds to get your preliminary lube, you might want 7 or so buckets, could probably get away with less but beginners will waste a lot of lube.

There's also a different route you can take if you have sugarcane available:
Blast Furnace -> Worktable -> DC Engine -> Fermenter -> Gasoline Engine -> Grinder

That's one block more to craft, but it eschews the worm gear, which you will never use again. It also makes the grinder quite a bit faster, since you don't have us use any form of transmission. 18 seconds per item, as opposed to >30 for steam engine with worm gear, or 24 for steam engine with 4:1 gearbox. Ethanol crystals are a renewable fuel source, and gasoline engines are easy to use and suited for a large number of machines.

By contrast, steam engines are much weaker, require you to either have nether access or build a cooling fin (which you really should have mentioned) unless you fancy a violent explosion, require an extra dc engine + pump + plumbing for hands-off operation, cannot be throttled, cannot be redstone controlled, and make a far more aggravating sound (that in contrast to other engines cannot be muffled)

I'm using gasoline engines all over the place, often on ECUs. My base currently has one gas turbine (intermittently producing RF for a Buildcraft refinery, a Forestry ethanol production line and a small AE system), one fuel powered engine (running the extractor), one dc engine (running a pump), and four five gasoline engines (running grinder, friction heated furnace, fuel enhancer, liquid distillery + liquid crystallizer, Buildcraft oil pump). Currently pondering a set of 4 gasoline engines for a boring machine, which may or may not be fast enough for my humble needs once properly enchanted. I'll be finding that out once I try it.

 

[Pyure]

Currently pondering a set of 4 gasoline engines for a boring machine, which may or may not be fast enough for my humble needs once properly enchanted. I'll be finding that out once I try it.

Will depend on what you'll be boring through, and how much of it (max size?), which will in turn determine what torque level you set it at (and therefore your speed.)

Boring machine with efficiency IV is ridiculously fast

 

[Omicron]

Four gasoline engines junctioned together gives me 512 Nm of torque. In a quick test that worked well enough on solid stone, but I'll have to see what happens when it encounters tough ores.

 

[Reika]

Four gasoline engines junctioned together gives me 512 Nm of torque. In a quick test that worked well enough on solid stone, but I'll have to see what happens when it encounters tough ores.

You likely need four times that.

 

[Omicron]

In that case I'll likely run it with a pair of fuel powered engines. I have plenty of oil to spare

The lubricant is actually the part that requires more effort in procuring and getting down to mining level in this case, I expect. But hey, I will have four gasoline engines leftover from earlier testing that I will no longer need... only gotta tack some grinders in front of them!

 

[Pyure]

In that case I'll likely run it with a pair of fuel powered engines. I have plenty of oil to spare

The lubricant is actually the part that requires more effort in procuring and getting down to mining level in this case, I expect. But hey, I will have four gasoline engines leftover from earlier testing that I will no longer need... only gotta tack some grinders in front of them!

Is this suggestion insane...? :

With a boring machine, you can basically just leave it there forever. If you wanted to, you could probably create a tiny lubricant farm and production facility right beside your borer. Then you wouldn't need to worry about piping it around. (I forget: do the plants grow underground given sufficient light?)