Regrowth auto crafting help

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I have a massive Forestry farm harvesting coal essence. That coal essence is being turned into coal, then into blocks via Botania crafty crates, to then be sent to several coke ovens. My problem is that I have a huge backlog of coal, and not nearly enough blocks to send out. The crafty crates are bottlenecking the process. Is there a way within regrowth 1.7.10 to auto craft items quickly?
 

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Just tried BC Factory auto crafters. They're even slower than the crafty crates....
 

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How are you feeding the crafty crates? They are only limited by how fast you can feed the items to them, so for higher speed crafting you need to upgrade from hoppers feeding them. If you're using hoppers for a buffer, then I recommend BC chutes, as they feed items much, much faster.
 

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Items are being extracted from the farm and are sent to a barrel thats been BSpaced to a barrel on top of a hopper feeding into the first crafty crate with the doughnut pattern to create coal. Those are then dropped into another hopper feeding into another crafty crate to turn the coal into blocks. The blocks are then sent to a BSpace barrel linking with 13 other barrels to power my boiler and to 12 coke ovens to mass produce coke blocks and creosote.

I'm gravity feeding the hoppers because when I tried to use a pipe, it extracted items before the crafting could actually happen, so I would have coal essence end up where the blocks were supposed to be made.
 
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The chutes aren't going to work. Because they need to have items piped directly into them, I would need to extract the items out of the crafty crates with a wooden transport pipe. Extracting items out of the crafty crates doesn't work because it doesn't only extract the crafted items. It's also extracting the items being piped in from the other side, thus leading me straight back to my original problem.
 

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Something else that's happening is the crafted items are being dropped out of the bottom of the crafty crate, onto the chute below, where it sits because the chute can't be gravity fed. I thought of using emerald extraction pipes so I could whitelist the coal but rather then being extracted and sent through the pipe, it gets dropped.
 

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Obsidian pipe to suck up the dropped items, then send them through another crafty crate making coal blocks so there's no backlog. Good idea.
 

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Figured it out. By extracting the coal out of the hopper receiving it, and sending it to a second crafty crate making blocks , I've eliminated backlog, and I now have double the production of blocks.
 

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The chutes aren't going to work. Because they need to have items piped directly into them, I would need to extract the items out of the crafty crates with a wooden transport pipe. Extracting items out of the crafty crates doesn't work because it doesn't only extract the crafted items. It's also extracting the items being piped in from the other side, thus leading me straight back to my original problem.
If you power chutes (ie with an engine or some sort of power line) they will also extract like a wooden pipe. This would allow you to accelerate the barrel -> crafty crate stage without worrying about item spillage. Using the obsidian pipe was definitely the right move to speed up the block crafting step.
 
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A little out of context but is there a way to stop the chutes like we can stop hoppers with a redstone signal?

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I didn't want to use the obsidian pipe idea simply because I don't have the best computer in the world... Keeping loose entities out of the world helps my game performance. I did get my problem figured out though. The whole setup looks pretty convoluted, but it does work. My issue is that I'm using the coal blocks to power my 72 endoflames to produce infinite mana very quickly, and the endoflames are eating the coal faster than my farm can produce it. I have a huge backlog of coal essence in the Forestry farm I built. I can't extract items out of it quickly enough to be able to send them out to be processed. Since the farm automatically outputs, powering an extraction pipe wouldn't do any good, so I'm stuck with however fast it outputs the items. Aside from adding more hatches to the farm, and building an incredibly convoluted system of pipes, how can I extract more items more quickly from the farm?
 

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Define infinite mana production?

Are you mass producing mana and storing it in tablets for a rainy day when it might get useful? Mass producing mana to get used by a lot of stuff? Then I would recommend using other kind of more efficient generation, like using TNT, cakes... You can easily autocraft TNT and generate way more and faster mana from a couple TNT blocks then a bunch of coal blocks. Mass producing mana with endoflames is just one step above the previous hundreds of dayblooms when decay didnt existed... There are more efficient and client/server and sanity friendly ways of doing it!

If you are just producing mana to have a couple of pools full for when you need it, you will reach a point where the mana pools get filled and the system starts backlogging and when that happens you will not need to insta-produce hundreds of blocks anymore. And when that happens, using coal units instead of blocks is more efficient since the when you use mana, you might only need a couple of coal units per flower instead of a full coal block to refill the pools. The coal block would be a waste...
 

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I thought I was into overkill. This brings my dreams of drowning in resources to a whole new level. Thanks.

What kinda setup are we talkin about here? Have you tried the different forms of extraction pipes? Just to make sure they won't help.
Is the farm feeding it directly into storage?
It is really hard for anyone to help you when they don't know the exact setup you are using. A picture album might be useful here too.

It sounded like they were trying to provide honest help. Not criticize.

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Massive edit to original post -
Trying my best to remove my head from my butt. It gets stuck there every once in awhile. Not for sure why.
 
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NunoAgapito

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How about rather than criticizing my methods, you help me with my problems.
Its kinda hard to help with your problems when your problems are as vague as "I am trying to generate nfinite mana very quickly".
Ever crossed your mind that your problem could be solved with different, easier, simpler and cleaner solutions? Like using different and more efficient flowers?
Ever crossed your mind that you could be over-thinking your problem and actually be something that you would just had to wait a couple hours until mana pools are full and system backlogs, so no need to go crazy?
Ever crossed your mind that your problems might actually be your methods?

Well, it crossed mine! And since you didnt explained for what and why your were doing it I think I am correct in assuming all kind of possibilities.
And... you actually stated you already solved your problem, in a "pretty convoluted" way. To me, that means you solved it but you would welcome suggestion to improvement since your way is pretty shitty as you stated.

This is not Reddit or other shitty internet sites where people can just be dicks so behave yourself, specially to the people that actually are trying to help you!