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Is "Blood Magic" Overpowered?

Discussion in 'General FTB chat' started by WayofTime, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. WayofTime

    WayofTime New Member

    Hello, folks! As you may or may not know, I am the mod developer of the mod Blood Magic, and am a regular contributor to this forum. I tend to look at many threads to guage how my mod is being received from the community, and there has been a few threads/discussions about the mod and a few mechanics in it that I would like to discuss openly. Whether the mod is overpowered for the cost involved, how it fares against other mods of the same tech level, and the general difficulty that is required to attain the items. It’s my hope that this thread will help to talk about things that the user may not like.

    If you do not know already, Blood Magic is based on sacrificing your life force and other mob’s energy to perform powerful effects. Things such as rituals to create lava sources to summoning meteors from space, and items that allow flight and potions to strengthen yourself. All of this comes at a large cost, since you start by sacrificing your health bar and progress by making a bigger and bigger altar. Because of the time it takes, and the unique balancing point of the mod (health, i.e. damage you incrue), I take liberty to add a few powerful items to help you along.

    My balancing system? Make sure it is fun for the user, while stopping the stuff from being “the very best.” It is my hope that all “systems” in the mod can be competed against by other means – such as the Air Sigil. Sure, it allows a quick form of flight, however it also is hard to control and is dangerous as all hell.

    This brings me to a thread/discussion I saw. A user pointed out that in his opinion, the Blood Magic potions and almost everything in the mod is waaaaaay too powerful compared to everything else. He reckons that a Str IV potion (that can only really be attained at T5, which needs an altar the size of a football field) is enough to 4-6 hit any form of boss monster. While this may be true, I figure that by the time you have managed to construct the 4 beacons needed for the altar, you would have figured out other ways to decimate your foes (I think Rotary Craft adds a sword that does over 200 points of damage).

    I don’t want to limit this thread to one things, so I’ll ask this: Is Blood Magic OP? If so, how would you rather see it constructed? If not, what is the reason? I don’t want this to become a thread that rips apart other “OP mods,” so please keep the chat civil, and I will make sure to answer any questions or queries if people ask me.
     
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  2. Padfoote

    Padfoote Brick Thrower Team Member Forum Moderator

    The only part that I feel is "overpowered" is the ability to use a handful of witches with the Well of Suffering to have infinite LP generation. I feel like it gives players a cheap way out of making some sort of mob trap to fuel the altar instead.
     
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  3. xbony2

    xbony2 WikiWorker Wiki Staff FTB Mod Dev

    OP? I haven't really played it yet, but to me it looks like anything Ultra-God-Powerful is far too end game to actually get.

    I'm just sad that from the spotlights I've seen so far that there's no screaming when you stab yourself. That would make the mod 10x better.
     
  4. WayofTime

    WayofTime New Member

    I'm thinking that if I added screams into the mod, some people might not be too happy! :3
     
  5. KillerRamer

    KillerRamer New Member

    A qoute from Spiteful fox after seeing this topic...

     
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  6. xbony2

    xbony2 WikiWorker Wiki Staff FTB Mod Dev

    Eh, make it configurable, and turn it off by default. No one will really care :3
     
  7. Adonis0

    Adonis0 New Member

    Personally, I agree with @Padfoote
    The only part that I think feels a bit "OP" is the ability to use witches to provide an infinite source. But, on that point some things that I would like to do with this would also be incredibly hard to do with self-sacrifice only.

    I don't think using mobs to power the altar are over powered, just witches which the set-up is getting a jailer's safari net underneath or a witch spawner and volia. done.
     
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  8. WayofTime

    WayofTime New Member

    Well, a cursed earth farm can also provide "Infinite power," and I think it's slightly faster. I'm not a fan of the witches myself, that and also Zerg rushing (excuse me while I shiver - I am planning ways to curb that), but I suppose I could find a way to stop the witches as well.
     
  9. KillerRamer

    KillerRamer New Member

    Doesn't vanilla change the sound system to be more configurable in 1.7? Which bracket would it go under if it did?

    oh and at the post above, what do you mean by zerg rushing? I'm kinda new to blood magic and my only claim to progress is the altar of kfc.
     
  10. WayofTime

    WayofTime New Member

    "Souls of the Damned."
     
  11. xbony2

    xbony2 WikiWorker Wiki Staff FTB Mod Dev

    Music Players sounds?
     
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  12. KillerRamer

    KillerRamer New Member

    Sooooo People who were cicada pranked or howler alarm pranked?
     
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  13. xbony2

    xbony2 WikiWorker Wiki Staff FTB Mod Dev

    Oh, and if you haven't, you should consider adding achievements, so little mods do that. I feel like any mod that adds achievements is better then any mod that doesn't.
     
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  14. WayofTime

    WayofTime New Member

    But but but... :(
     
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  15. Padfoote

    Padfoote Brick Thrower Team Member Forum Moderator

    Achievements get reset so easily it's not even worth it as a player to try to get them.
     
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  16. xbony2

    xbony2 WikiWorker Wiki Staff FTB Mod Dev

    Don't be lazy, it's not that hard, if I can do them you can do them :p[DOUBLEPOST=1398040681][/DOUBLEPOST]
    I've never tried to get Achievements, it just seems cool when I get one, it makes me feel like I'm doing something right (Until something blows up but yeah)
     
  17. Padfoote

    Padfoote Brick Thrower Team Member Forum Moderator

    I don't know, I'm in the boat where I'd rather have a mod dev adding something new or fixing bugs over adding achievements that don't do anything and don't survive any updates.
     
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  18. xbony2

    xbony2 WikiWorker Wiki Staff FTB Mod Dev

    I guess that's true, but adding them isn't that hard.
     
  19. KillerRamer

    KillerRamer New Member

    But calling him lazy for not doing it isn't exactly respectful either. He has made a fine mod, and achievements would probably be rather low on the priority list.
     
  20. Adonis0

    Adonis0 New Member

    mmm, but the thing is for me, a cursed earth farm takes a little more infrastructure to do it right (just having one underneath the altar doesn't give you a good return.. I've tried it.)
     

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