Is there any hope for me?

[tooncool64]

Ugh, i have tried all the things. I cannot play infinity or even direwolf20 becuase i lag so bad! I really need help with this.
My specs:
Intel Celeron dual core 2.14 ghz
4 gigs of ram 3.89 usuable
Intel Graphics

I allocate 1.75-2.25 on the launcher and i always get <10 fps. Someone has suggest that i duel boot lubuntu and i also have java 8.

Please guys, is there any hope for me? Any tips to boost proformance? Any truth to the lubuntu thing?

 

[Padfoote]

Those packs are way too big for your specs. You'll need to cut your mod count down in order to get playable frames.

 

[tooncool64]

Those packs are way too big for your specs. You'll need to cut your mod count down in order to get playable frames.

Any modpacks you recommend?

 

[Cptqrk]

The 1.6.4 packs? Your ram is your main killer there. All the 1.7 packs need at least 4gig dedicated to the game alone.

 

[LuisAdeur]

1st of all. intel celeron...?
2nd there is no way you will be able to run infinity with at least 30fps.
3rd infinity at least needs 3gb to be able to run fine which leaves you with 0.89 usable , not good enough for background processes.
4th betterfps , fastcraft , optifine , those are some good mods that will give you some fps boost if you don't have them already.
5th intelgraphics usually are less than 1gb allocated video ram.

i suggest you stick to vanilla minecraft as for now or make your own modpack and put mods until your computer is playable with those.
and buy a new computer or laptop when you can afford it

 

[Cptqrk]

1st of all. intel celeron...?
2nd there is no way you will be able to run infinity with at least 30fps.
3rd infinity at least needs 3gb to be able to run fine which leaves you with 0.89 usable , not good enough for background processes.
4th betterfps , fastcraft , optifine , those are some good mods that will give you some fps boost if you don't have them already.
5th intelgraphics usually are less than 1gb allocated video ram.

i suggest you stick to vanilla minecraft as for now or make your own modpack and put mods until your computer is playable with those.
and buy a new computer or laptop when you can afford it

While all good suggestions, I would still say to the OP to stick with 1.6.4 packs for now until they upgrade their computer.

 

[ICountFrom0]

That's pretty much the specs I run on.
Try the pack I made.
...
Actually, I need to update the topic to what it's evolved to have.

 

[GreenZombie]

What do you mean by 'lag so bad'?

Your system is going to give you two problems:

1. Low fps. Your fix hardware is simply not up to the task. You need to turn all your graphics settings down until you can achieve a good playable fps in vanilla.
Then, if vanilla fps is good but modded is bad, disable biomes oh plenty which adds a low of texture memory pressure.
2. Low tps. The celery will struggle to run the server part of the game. If you have, run the minecraft server on a separate PC.

Otherwise, you have to just keep your builds mostly decorative- using blocks but minimizing tile entities. Making huge complexes with many pipes will kill both your tps and fps.

 

[Azzanine]

Short answer; No
Long answer; Nope, sorry.

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[Hambeau]

1st of all. intel celeron...?
2nd there is no way you will be able to run infinity with at least 30fps.
3rd infinity at least needs 3gb to be able to run fine which leaves you with 0.89 usable , not good enough for background processes.
4th betterfps , fastcraft , optifine , those are some good mods that will give you some fps boost if you don't have them already.
5th intelgraphics usually are less than 1gb allocated video ram.

i suggest you stick to vanilla minecraft as for now or make your own modpack and put mods until your computer is playable with those.
and buy a new computer or laptop when you can afford it

To your 3rd point, 0.89GB isn't enough to keep an OS happy, let alone run background processes...

My memory allocation works like this, assuming a GPU with separate video ram:

1). 2GB for the OS. This is the most important allocation... Without the OS, NOTHING runs! If the system has integrated graphics reserve 2.5GB.

2). 4GB for Minecraft and preferred loader and mods. This seems to work fine for every pack I've loaded so far and also happens to be the default allocation for 64-bit Java 1.0.8

I usually recommend a minimum of 8GB total if someone is upgrading or building a new system even if they aren't playing Minecraft, 16GB is coming into a good price range so is not unthinkable for systems to be used for certain applications.

 

[tooncool64]

Thanks for the answers! I think I am going to start playing the original TPPI, or make a small 1.7.10 modpack for myself. Its so strange, because I can run a 1.6.4 pack with 150+ mods just fine with 30fps but a 1.7.10 pack with 0-5.

 

[Cptqrk]

Thanks for the answers! I think I am going to start playing the original TPPI, or make a small 1.7.10 modpack for myself. Its so strange, because I can run a 1.6.4 pack with 150+ mods just fine with 30fps but a 1.7.10 pack with 0-5.

1.6.4 is less resource intensive than 1.7.10. I remember with the transition between them, a lot of folks were upset that their computers were not able to handle the new version. This is the main reason why fastcraft is now a standard mod in 1.7.10, as it helps to fix some of the issues, but it's not a magic bullet.

There is still a lot of fun to be had with 1.6.4 packs! Have fun!

 

[asiekierka]

The 1.6.4 packs? Your ram is your main killer there. All the 1.7 packs need at least 4gig dedicated to the game alone.

4 gig? All of my 1.7 packs run at 1024MB just fine - on a 64-bit computer, too! In fact, I've had 1.5.2 packs with less mods that required 1.4GB or they'd crash upon trying to load a world. And I get more FPS on 1.7.10+FastCraft than on 1.2.5.

In other words, lies.

 

[HeroWing2]

Use packs that Are smaller Check out some other launchers agrarian skies 2
And magic farm 3 also hubris or Regrowth
There are many options But infinity and direwolf20 are some excessive pack compared to other so Gl
And one question if you play pvp
Do you lag

 

[HeroWing2]

Use packs that Are smaller Check out some other launchers agrarian skies 2
And magic farm 3 also hubris or Regrowth
There are many options But infinity and direwolf20 are some excessive pack compared to other so Gl
And one question if you play pvp
Do you lag

 

[tooncool64]

4 gig? All of my 1.7 packs run at 1024MB just fine - on a 64-bit computer, too! In fact, I've had 1.5.2 packs with less mods that required 1.4GB or they'd crash upon trying to load a world. And I get more FPS on 1.7.10+FastCraft than on 1.2.5.

In other words, lies.

Whaaaaaaaat? Wow. What is your GHZ?

 

[Cptqrk]

Whaaaaaaaat? Wow. What is your GHZ?

Agreed. What pack do you speak of? Are you using Fastcraft/Optifine? What CPU? What graphics card?

On my i7 with 4gigs ram (out of 24) dedicated to MC, NVidia 690 running on a hosted server I get good fps, but on my laptop? LOLNOPE.jpg


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[Pixxlationn]

I don't know what's wrong with your laptop, but my flimsy 4gb samsung notebook can run Infinity Evolved at about 20-30 fps, which is 100% playable by me. With, of course, smaller render distance, fog off, mipmap set to 0, etc etc.

 

[DeathOfTime]

Please guys, is there any hope for me? Any tips to boost proformance? Any truth to the lubuntu thing?

Like was said earlier. Try lowering the settings. There are a lot of settings in the video options to try out.

As for linux. I really like the idea. Just not the reality. I happen to had the best experience with Linux Mint. Debian is near impossible for me to do anything with. Ubuntu is alright. If you have no experience with linux I wouldn't recommend it at all. Even in a dual boot situation. Especially if you aren't very computer savvy in the first place. If you want to try it go for Mint. Every time I have installed linux of any sort it has always ended in suffering and ultimately disappointment. I do remember that I ran into serious issues trying to run 1.7.10 packs on linux. I couldn't be sure of the issue. I was only getting 4 FPS or so though. Where on windows I would usually get 30 FPS.

If you can't out right buy a new computer you might try other strategies for acquiring one. The best one for me was buying it piece by piece trading out components of my old PC as I was able. Didn't go as planned. Still worked in the end though. I don't think a single part is left from the original e-machine that I had purchased. Which brings up another point. You can build a computer capable of playing games for a lot less then what most might think to spend on it. Last I looked the most a budget PC should cost is $600. This is including the operating system. Don't buy brand name PCs, ever. Even generic brands are a rip off. Same might go for pre-built too. I am not for sure. Buy all the parts separately. Then build it yourself. If you aren't comfortable doing it then look among the people you trust for someone that is. As a last resort research local Computer stores to see if any are up to the task.

((While writing this post I managed to press a shortcut combination twice. One opened chromes html checker thingy. The other a new window. Seriously, I would love to have all shortcuts disabled. I don't like keyboard shortcuts and tend not to use them. It may not seem it but all together this post took a long time to write. I have to correct constant spelling and grammar mistakes I make. Not to mention the outright deletions I made to entire sections to make the post easier to digest and possibly ramble a little less. Not really important. Just wanted to add this on at the end.))

 

[Hambeau]

I agree with @DeathOfTime on rebuilding, as long as you know what you're doing.

I upgraded from a single core AMD CPU to my current FX8350 this way...
First, I upgraded my mobo to a new version supporting both single and dual core CPUs (and the same ram). Then I upgraded to a dual core CPU. Next I upgraded to a mobo that supported both AM2 and AM3+ CPU sockets (current CPU was AM2), although I had to swap from DDR2 to DDR3 ram as well.

Once I had the DDR3 ram and AM3+ socket, the next update was my FX 8350. My last update was my current mobo, a first gen Sabertooth 990 (all my mobos are ASUS). I can now update either my CPU to the latest speed or Ram, from 1333Mhz to any speed up to 2100Mhz. If I can swing it I'd like to do a package of both + a new Mobo, to get rid of all USB support older than V2.0, perhaps even 2.0 as well since all versions are supported by V3.0, and to move to faster Ram with more capacity.

I currently have 8GB of a 32GB capacity, which is enough for now, but 64GB would be nice to grow into and even though the price of ram is dropping I'd rather pay for ram that would work in both configs... I'd rather add ram than replace it.

I want to build a UEFI loader partition to create a ramdrive, copy the basic boot image to it and mark it as the boot partition, running the base system without having to touch a physical drive. "Disk" access times in the nanoSeconds instead of milliSeconds? Yes, Please!