What do I do with..... Guide

Discussion in 'General FTB chat' started by DoctorOr, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. DoctorOr

    DoctorOr Popular Member

    To get the best output from mining, I made a list of what to do with everything. Figured it would be useful for others, so I'm posting here.

    Obviously, anything that Fortune III works on must be Silk Touched to get any other effect. The multiplier used for fortune is an approximation over time. Any one block may give you only one, or several times more than the listed multiplier.

    Tiny dusts can be converted to normal dusts 4:1
    Normal dusts can (generally) be smelted to ingots 1:1

    I tried to put things in order of preference, best to worst, but specific circumstance and need can change things up. (Note however, how much the macerator sucks) In fact, if you play with GregTech then GT will add recipes to the TE Pulverizer to make any recipe where the Pulverizer is slightly behind equal to the Macerator, while leaving the recipes with the bonus dusts. This means there is absolutely no reason to ever make a Macerator.

    This list is generated from the MindCrack pack, what I currently play. This means GregTech is enabled. In games where GregTech is not available not only must you ignore the entry from the Grinder, but the pulverizer recipes will very rarely be worse than the macerator.

    Gold Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Gold Dust + Tiny Copper Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust
    Indus. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate Cell: 2x Dust Dust + Copper Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust
    Indus. Grinder + Mercury Cell: 3x Gold Dust + Tiny Copper Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust
    Factorization: 1.2x-3x
    Induction Smelter: 2x Gold Ingot + (10% Chance) Rich Slag
    Macerator: 2x Gold Dust
    Pulverizer: 2x Gold Dust

    Iron Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Blast Furnace: 3x Refined Iron
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Iron Dust + Tiny Tin Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust
    Factorization: 1.2x-3x
    Induction Smelter: 2x Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Pulverizer: 2x Iron Dust + (10% Chance) Ferrous Dust
    Macerator: 2x Iron Dust

    Coal Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Fortune III Pick: 2.5x - 2.8x Coal + XP
    Indus. Grinder: 1x Coal + 1x Hydrated Coal Dust + 2x Tiny Coal Dust
    Macerator: 2x Coal Dust
    Pulverizer: 2x Coal Dust
    Factorization: 1x

    Lapis Lazuli Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Fortune III Pick: 12x - 13x Lapis Lazuli + XP
    Indus. Grinder: 12x Lapis + 3x Lazurite Dust
    Macerator: 12x Lapis
    Pulverizer: 12x Lapis
    Factorization: 1x

    Diamond Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 1x Diamond, 1.5x Diamond Dust, 1xHydrated Coal Dust
    Fortune III Pick: 2.2x - 2.5x Diamond + XP
    Macerator: 2x Diamond Dust
    Pulverizer: 2x Diamond Dust
    (4x Diamond Dust can be turned into 3x Diamond)
    Factorization: 1x Diamond
    (Some argument can be had for what to do here, I find Diamond dust incredibly useful, and Diamond gems are easy to get due to Coal -> Diamond conversion. In short though, diamond dust is useful and don't waste some by automatically converting all of it to gems)

    Redstone Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 10x Redstone + 2x Tiny Glowstone Dust
    Macerator: 10x Redstone
    Pulverizer: 10x Redstone
    Fortune III Pick: 5.5x - 5.7x Redstone + XP
    Factorization: 1x Redstone

    Nikolite Ore: (Updated for Minecrack 8.01)
    Indus Grinder: 12x Nikolite + Tiny Diamond Dust
    Pulverizer: 10x Nikolite + (10% Chance) Diamond Dust
    Macerator: 10x Nikolite
    Fortune III Pick: 5.5x-5.7x Nikolite + XP

    Emerald Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Fortune III Pick: 2.2x - 2.4x Emeralds + XP
    Indus. Grinder: 1x Emerald + 1.5x Emerald Dust + 2 Tiny Olivine Dust
    Macerator: 2x Emerald Dust
    Factorization: 1x Emerald
    Pulverizer: 2x Emerald Dust
    (Fortune is better than Grinder only because Olivine dust is basically worthless)
    (Emerald Dust has some small use: Berylium, Data Storage Circuit)

    Cinnabar Ore (Thaumcraft): (Verified for MindCrack 8.01)
    Dark brown ore in the Overworld
    Smelt for 1x Quicksilver
    (Quicksilver can be turned into a Mercury Cell for the Industrial Grinder, but I'd suggest holding off. No idea what ThaumCraft will use for Quicksilver)

    Ruby Ore, Sapphire Ore, Green Sapphire Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 1x <gem>, 1.5x <gem> Dust, 2x Tiny <bonus> Dust
    Ruby: Bonus = Red Garnet
    Sapphire: Bonus = Green Sapphire
    Green Sapphire: Bonus = Sapphire
    Fortune III Pick: 2.2x - 2.5x <gem> + XP
    Pulverizer: 2x <gem> Dust + (10% Chance) <bonus> Dust
    Macerator: 2x <gem> Dust
    (Ruby Dust is incredibly useful as the primary source of Chrome)


    XXX Xychorium: (Verified for MindCrack 8.01)
    Pickaxe: 3.1x - 3.5x
    Fortune III has no effect

    Aluminum [sic] Ore: (Verified for MindCrack 8.01)
    Smelt for 1x Aluminum

    Sulfur Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus Grinder: 10x Sulfur
    Macerator: 8x Sulfur
    Pulverizer: 6x Sulfur + (30% Chance) Sulfur (*different* sulfur which can be ground for 2x the first sulfur)
    Fortune III Pick: 4.2x - 4.5x + XP
    Unenchanted Pick: 2.5x - 3x + XP

    Saltpeter Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 7x Saltpeter
    Macerator: 5x Saltpeter
    Pulverizer: 4x Saltpeter + (15% Chance) Niter
    Fortune III Pick: 2.7x - 3x Saltpeter + XP
    Unenchanted: 1.1x - 1.4x Saltpeter + XP

    Uranium Ore [From IC2]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Uranium Dust + 2x Tiny Plutonium Dust
    Pulverizer: 2x Uranium Dust + (10% Chance) Plutonium Dust
    Macerator: 2x Uranium Dust
    Dust can be Compressed to Refined Uranium 1:1
    Pick: 1x Uranium + XP
    Compressor: 1x Refined Uranium

    Monazit Ore [From MFFS]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Industrial Grinder: 10x Forcium + Thorium Dust
    Macerator: 8x Forcium
    Smelt: 4x Forcium

    Bauxite Ore [From GregTech]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 4x Bauxite Dust + 1x Aluminium Dust
    Pulverizer: 4x Bauxite Dust + (10% Chance) Aluminium Dust
    Macerator: 4x Bauxite Dust

    Pyrite Ore [From GregTech] (Nether): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Blast Furnace + Calcium Carbonate Cell: 2x Refined Iron
    Pulverizer: 5x Pyrite Dust + (10% Chance) Iron Dust
    Indus. Grinder: 5x Pyrite Dust + 2x Sulfur
    Macerator: 5x Pyrite Dust
    Fortune III Pick: 4.1x - 4.5x Pyrite Dust + XP
    Unenchanted Pick: 2x Pyrite Dust + XP
    Smelt: 1x Iron
    (5x Pyrite is equivalent to 1 and 2/3rd Iron, plus some sulfur)
    Cinnabar Ore [From GregTech] (Nether): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 5x Cinnabar Dust + 2x Tiny Redstone Dust + 1x Tiny Glowstone Dust
    Fortune III Pick: 4.1x - 4.5x Cinnabar Dust + XP
    Pulverizer: 3x Cinnabar Dust + (10% Chance) Redstone Dust
    Macerator: 3x Cinnabar Dust
    Unenchanted Pick: 2x Cinnabar Dust + XP

    Sphalerite Ore [From GregTech] (Nether): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Fortune III Pick: 4.1x - 4.5x Sphalerite Dust + (Small chance) Yellow Garnet + XP
    Indust. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate: 5x Spahlerite Dust + 3x Zinc Dust + 1x Tiny Yellow Garnet Dust
    Indust. Grinder: 5x Spahlerite Dust + 1x Zinc Dust + 1x Tiny Yellow Garnet Dust
    Pulverizer: 4x Sphalerite Dust + (10% Chance) Zinc Dust
    Macerator: 4x Sphalerite Dust
    Unenchanted Pick: 2x Spahlerite Dust + 0.3x Zinc Dust
    Unknown (0.3x or less) chance at a Yellow Garnet - Unaffected by Fortune
    Sphalerite Dust is nearly useless, it reduces to sulfur and zinc, both of which are plentiful
    Yellow Garnet has a single use: 112 Dusts will reduce to 2 Chrome
    It takes 448 Sphalerite ores in the Grinder to get 112 Yellow garnet.
    Similar amount if you mine it with the pick.
    So while the grinder might be numerically superior on the dusts, you may as well mine it and get the XP.

    Tungstate Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Tungstate Dust + 3x Tiny Iron Dust + 3x Tiny Manganese Dust
    Induction Smelter: 2x Tungsten Dust + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Pulverizer: 2x Tungsten Dust + (10% Chance) Manganese Dust
    Macerator: 2x Tungstate Dust

    Sheldonite Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Platinum Dust + 1x Nickel Dust + 2x Iridium Nuggets
    Indus. Grinder + Mercury Cell: 3x Platinum Dust + 1x Nickel Dust + 2x Iridium Nuggets
    Pulverizer: 2x Platinum Dust + (10% Chance) Iridum Ore
    Induction Smelter: 2x Platinum Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Macerator: 2x Platinum Dust
    Smelt: 1x Platinum Ingot

    Olivine Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 1x Olivine Gem + 1.5 Olivine Dust + 2x Tiny Emerald Dust
    Pulverizer: 2x Olivine Dust + (10% Chance) Emerald Dust
    Fortune III Pick: 2.7x - 2.9x Olivine Gem (no XP)
    Macerator: 2x Olivine Dust
    Unenchanted Pick: 1x Olivine Gem
    (Olivine is so worthless, that extra Emerald from the Grinder/Pulverizer makes it better than Fortune)

    Sodalite Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 12x Sodalite Dust + 3x Aluminium Dust
    Fortune III Pick: 12x - 13x Sodalite Dust + 1x Aluminium Dust
    Pulverizer: 12x Sodalite Dust + (10% Chance) Aluminium Dust
    Macerator: 12x Sodalite Dust
    Unenchanted Pick: 6x Sodalite Dust + 0.3x Aluminium Dust
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  2. SilvasRuin

    SilvasRuin Active Member

    I thought Factorization had an average of 3x yield, not an upper limit.
  3. DoctorOr

    DoctorOr Popular Member

    ---- Part 2 ----


    Copper Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Copper + 1x Tiny Gold + 1x Tiny Nickel
    Indus. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate: 3x Copper + 1x Tiny Gold + 1x Tiny Nickel
    Indus. Grinder + Mercury: 2x Copper + 1x Gold Dust
    Factorization: 1.2x-3x
    Induction Smelter: 2x Copper Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Pulverizer: 2x Copper Dust + (10% Chance) Gold Dust
    Macerator: 2x Copper Dust

    Tin Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Tin + 1x Tiny Iron + 1x Tiny Zinc
    Indus. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate: 2x Tin + 1x Tiny Iron + 1x Zinc Dust
    Factorization: 1.2x-3x
    Induction Smelter: 2x Tin Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Pulverizer: 2x Tin Dust + (10% Chance) Iron Dust
    Macerator: 2x Tin Dust

    Silver Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Silver + 2x Tiny Lead Dust
    Indus. Grinder + Mercury: 3x Silver + 2x Tiny Lead Dust
    Factorization: 2.2x-4x
    Slag Furnace: 1x Silver Ingot + 1.2x Lead Ingot
    Induction Smelter: 2x Silver Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Pulverizer: 2x Silver Dust + (10% Chance) Lead Dust
    Macerator: 2x Silver Dust

    Lead Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 2x Lead + 2x Tiny Silver Dust
    Induction Smelter: 2x Lead Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Pulverizer: 2x Lead Dust + (10% Chance) Silver Dust
    Macerator: 2x Lead Dust

    Ferrous Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01)
    Indus. Grinder: 3x Nickel Dust + 1x Tiny Platinum Dust + 1x Tiny Copper Dust
    Pulverizer: 2x Nickel Dust + (10% Chance) Platinum Dust
    Induction Smelter: 2x Ferrous Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag
    Macerator: 2x Nickel Dust
    Smelt: 1x Nickel Ingot

    Apatite Ore:
    Fortune III: 6x-7x Apatite
    Indus. Grinder: 3x Apatite + 1x Phosphor Dust
    Pulverizer: 2x Apatite + (10% Chance) Phosphor Dust
    Macerator: 2x Apatite
    (Phosphor Dust has no use whatsoever)

    -- Edit Jan 21, 2013: Updated Nikolite for game change (added Diamond dust bonus) and expanded on gems and Sphalerite.

    -- Edit Feb 2, 2013: Updated for MindCrack 8.0, which means Pulverizer bonus was increased almost across the board, and Induction Smelter bonus was reduced for Rich Slag due to a balancing change by King Lemming.
  4. SilvasRuin

    SilvasRuin Active Member

    Each step has a given chance of getting an extra result. Multiply the steps together and you get just barely under 300% yield. That looks the world to me like it's possible to have an ore double during the grinding, then during the smelting, then again during the crystallization resulting in a potential 8x yield, but since this is spread out across multiple chances, it lowers the standard deviation and makes outliers less common. The end results are certainly not consistent when you watch each step of the process.
  5. Miss_Catlin1951

    Miss_Catlin1951 New Member

    This is fascinating, my only problem is just like dating You got to do a lot of work to ket the special one. Hardly seems worth it.
  6. b0bst3r

    b0bst3r Popular Member

    But but but there's a "secret" in there :D

    *lets the secret out*

    Pulverizer: 2x Ferrous Dust + (5% Chance) Shiny Dust [Same as Platinum]

    That Shiny dust (8 of) in an Industrial Centrifuge turns into Iridium Ore
  7. Zjarek_S

    Zjarek_S Active Member

    Factorization grinder works with silk touch ores, you get on average 2,25 diamond or 8 redstone from ore, it even has silk touch tool. In FZ processing you are doubling most of the ores (excepts silver one) before washing, just grinding and slag furnace for it is enough.
  8. Celestialphoenix

    Celestialphoenix Popular Member

    This is brilliant!
    Could I refer/use to this the FAQ thread?
  9. DoctorOr

    DoctorOr Popular Member

    Uh sure. None of it is original knowledge, just pulled out of NEI and gameplay and written down.
  10. Icarus White

    Icarus White Member

    I have to add, though, that your information on Factorization's diamond and coal yields isn't quite accurate...

    In addition to Zjarek_S's note on diamond and redstone, you can also use the factorization grinder on coal ore to get 3.5 coal.

    The situation with factorization and silver ore is quite strange, too, as you get more lead than silver out of it.
  11. ICountFrom0

    ICountFrom0 Popular Member

    As soon as I saw it, i started trying to figure out where to shoe horn it into my list. You need sticky man.
  12. DoctorOr

    DoctorOr Popular Member

    Bumping as I've updated for MindCrack 8.01. This required splitting the list into two messages.
  13. kolikooo1

    kolikooo1 Active Member

    tnx for making this we needed a mod that will say things like this in-game maybe make it so it is on the right side of the screan and show usage by pressing "U"
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  14. GreenWolf13

    GreenWolf13 Active Member

    The sarcasm, it is delicious.
  15. MilConDoin

    MilConDoin The Bee-Whisperer

    The pulverizer and macerator produce iron, not gold ;-)
  16. Icarus White

    Icarus White Member

    I hate to sound like a broken record, but your information for factorization yields is still incorrect.
  17. Celestialphoenix

    Celestialphoenix Popular Member

    Do you want to add Thaumcraft native clusters for Gold/Iron/Tin/Copper/Lead?

    200% normal smelting
    215-220% in an infernal furnace+ 3 arcane bellows. (2 Ingots + 1-2 nuggets + Exp)
    (This is also a very fast processing line)​

  18. brujon

    brujon Active Member

    Native Clusters are only gotten through mining with a Pickaxe of the Core or an Arcane Bore with the Pickaxe of the Core instead of a normal Pickaxe, so i don't think they're common enough to warrant their own entry... People that will be getting massive amounts of Native Clusters would be planning on doing stuff with Infernal Furnaces anyway. This list on the other hand works for about any method of mining, except for redstone/diamond ore which requires silk touch.

    EDIT: Also, the Macerator is great for processing insane amounts of ore, such as those gathered from multiple running quarries, or quarries running on Dense Ore ages, so it's still something to keep in mind... 10 overclocker upgrades + 2 energy storage upgrades + 2 transformer upgrades makes it able to perform on par with the Rotary Macerator.
  19. Saice

    Saice Tech Support

    Handy cheat sheets of ratios.

    Useful for planing stuff out.
  20. Guswut

    Guswut Popular Member

    The rotary macerator has upgrade slots, though, so it is less logical to not go with it. The induction furnace, though, does not have any upgrade slots so it is pretty worthless as such.

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