To get the best output from mining, I made a list of what to do with everything. Figured it would be useful for others, so I'm posting here. Obviously, anything that Fortune III works on must be Silk Touched to get any other effect. The multiplier used for fortune is an approximation over time. Any one block may give you only one, or several times more than the listed multiplier. Tiny dusts can be converted to normal dusts 4:1 Normal dusts can (generally) be smelted to ingots 1:1 I tried to put things in order of preference, best to worst, but specific circumstance and need can change things up. (Note however, how much the macerator sucks) In fact, if you play with GregTech then GT will add recipes to the TE Pulverizer to make any recipe where the Pulverizer is slightly behind equal to the Macerator, while leaving the recipes with the bonus dusts. This means there is absolutely no reason to ever make a Macerator. This list is generated from the MindCrack pack, what I currently play. This means GregTech is enabled. In games where GregTech is not available not only must you ignore the entry from the Grinder, but the pulverizer recipes will very rarely be worse than the macerator. Gold Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Gold Dust + Tiny Copper Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust Indus. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate Cell: 2x Dust Dust + Copper Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust Indus. Grinder + Mercury Cell: 3x Gold Dust + Tiny Copper Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust Factorization: 1.2x-3x Induction Smelter: 2x Gold Ingot + (10% Chance) Rich Slag Macerator: 2x Gold Dust Pulverizer: 2x Gold Dust Iron Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Blast Furnace: 3x Refined Iron Indus. Grinder: 2x Iron Dust + Tiny Tin Dust + Tiny Nickel Dust Factorization: 1.2x-3x Induction Smelter: 2x Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Pulverizer: 2x Iron Dust + (10% Chance) Ferrous Dust Macerator: 2x Iron Dust Coal Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Fortune III Pick: 2.5x - 2.8x Coal + XP Indus. Grinder: 1x Coal + 1x Hydrated Coal Dust + 2x Tiny Coal Dust Macerator: 2x Coal Dust Pulverizer: 2x Coal Dust Factorization: 1x Lapis Lazuli Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Fortune III Pick: 12x - 13x Lapis Lazuli + XP Indus. Grinder: 12x Lapis + 3x Lazurite Dust Macerator: 12x Lapis Pulverizer: 12x Lapis Factorization: 1x Diamond Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 1x Diamond, 1.5x Diamond Dust, 1xHydrated Coal Dust Fortune III Pick: 2.2x - 2.5x Diamond + XP Macerator: 2x Diamond Dust Pulverizer: 2x Diamond Dust (4x Diamond Dust can be turned into 3x Diamond) Factorization: 1x Diamond (Some argument can be had for what to do here, I find Diamond dust incredibly useful, and Diamond gems are easy to get due to Coal -> Diamond conversion. In short though, diamond dust is useful and don't waste some by automatically converting all of it to gems) Redstone Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 10x Redstone + 2x Tiny Glowstone Dust Macerator: 10x Redstone Pulverizer: 10x Redstone Fortune III Pick: 5.5x - 5.7x Redstone + XP Factorization: 1x Redstone Nikolite Ore: (Updated for Minecrack 8.01) Indus Grinder: 12x Nikolite + Tiny Diamond Dust Pulverizer: 10x Nikolite + (10% Chance) Diamond Dust Macerator: 10x Nikolite Fortune III Pick: 5.5x-5.7x Nikolite + XP Emerald Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Fortune III Pick: 2.2x - 2.4x Emeralds + XP Indus. Grinder: 1x Emerald + 1.5x Emerald Dust + 2 Tiny Olivine Dust Macerator: 2x Emerald Dust Factorization: 1x Emerald Pulverizer: 2x Emerald Dust (Fortune is better than Grinder only because Olivine dust is basically worthless) (Emerald Dust has some small use: Berylium, Data Storage Circuit) Cinnabar Ore (Thaumcraft): (Verified for MindCrack 8.01) Dark brown ore in the Overworld Smelt for 1x Quicksilver (Quicksilver can be turned into a Mercury Cell for the Industrial Grinder, but I'd suggest holding off. No idea what ThaumCraft will use for Quicksilver) Ruby Ore, Sapphire Ore, Green Sapphire Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 1x <gem>, 1.5x <gem> Dust, 2x Tiny <bonus> Dust Ruby: Bonus = Red Garnet Sapphire: Bonus = Green Sapphire Green Sapphire: Bonus = Sapphire Fortune III Pick: 2.2x - 2.5x <gem> + XP Pulverizer: 2x <gem> Dust + (10% Chance) <bonus> Dust Macerator: 2x <gem> Dust (Ruby Dust is incredibly useful as the primary source of Chrome) XXX Xychorium: (Verified for MindCrack 8.01) Pickaxe: 3.1x - 3.5x Fortune III has no effect Aluminum [sic] Ore: (Verified for MindCrack 8.01) Smelt for 1x Aluminum Sulfur Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus Grinder: 10x Sulfur Macerator: 8x Sulfur Pulverizer: 6x Sulfur + (30% Chance) Sulfur (*different* sulfur which can be ground for 2x the first sulfur) Fortune III Pick: 4.2x - 4.5x + XP Unenchanted Pick: 2.5x - 3x + XP Saltpeter Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 7x Saltpeter Macerator: 5x Saltpeter Pulverizer: 4x Saltpeter + (15% Chance) Niter Fortune III Pick: 2.7x - 3x Saltpeter + XP Unenchanted: 1.1x - 1.4x Saltpeter + XP Uranium Ore [From IC2]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Uranium Dust + 2x Tiny Plutonium Dust Pulverizer: 2x Uranium Dust + (10% Chance) Plutonium Dust Macerator: 2x Uranium Dust Dust can be Compressed to Refined Uranium 1:1 Pick: 1x Uranium + XP Compressor: 1x Refined Uranium Monazit Ore [From MFFS]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Industrial Grinder: 10x Forcium + Thorium Dust Macerator: 8x Forcium Smelt: 4x Forcium Bauxite Ore [From GregTech]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 4x Bauxite Dust + 1x Aluminium Dust Pulverizer: 4x Bauxite Dust + (10% Chance) Aluminium Dust Macerator: 4x Bauxite Dust Pyrite Ore [From GregTech] (Nether): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Blast Furnace + Calcium Carbonate Cell: 2x Refined Iron Pulverizer: 5x Pyrite Dust + (10% Chance) Iron Dust Indus. Grinder: 5x Pyrite Dust + 2x Sulfur Macerator: 5x Pyrite Dust Fortune III Pick: 4.1x - 4.5x Pyrite Dust + XP Unenchanted Pick: 2x Pyrite Dust + XP Smelt: 1x Iron (5x Pyrite is equivalent to 1 and 2/3rd Iron, plus some sulfur) Cinnabar Ore [From GregTech] (Nether): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 5x Cinnabar Dust + 2x Tiny Redstone Dust + 1x Tiny Glowstone Dust Fortune III Pick: 4.1x - 4.5x Cinnabar Dust + XP Pulverizer: 3x Cinnabar Dust + (10% Chance) Redstone Dust Macerator: 3x Cinnabar Dust Unenchanted Pick: 2x Cinnabar Dust + XP Sphalerite Ore [From GregTech] (Nether): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Fortune III Pick: 4.1x - 4.5x Sphalerite Dust + (Small chance) Yellow Garnet + XP Indust. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate: 5x Spahlerite Dust + 3x Zinc Dust + 1x Tiny Yellow Garnet Dust Indust. Grinder: 5x Spahlerite Dust + 1x Zinc Dust + 1x Tiny Yellow Garnet Dust Pulverizer: 4x Sphalerite Dust + (10% Chance) Zinc Dust Macerator: 4x Sphalerite Dust Unenchanted Pick: 2x Spahlerite Dust + 0.3x Zinc Dust Unknown (0.3x or less) chance at a Yellow Garnet - Unaffected by Fortune Sphalerite Dust is nearly useless, it reduces to sulfur and zinc, both of which are plentiful Yellow Garnet has a single use: 112 Dusts will reduce to 2 Chrome It takes 448 Sphalerite ores in the Grinder to get 112 Yellow garnet. Similar amount if you mine it with the pick. So while the grinder might be numerically superior on the dusts, you may as well mine it and get the XP. Tungstate Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Tungstate Dust + 3x Tiny Iron Dust + 3x Tiny Manganese Dust Induction Smelter: 2x Tungsten Dust + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Pulverizer: 2x Tungsten Dust + (10% Chance) Manganese Dust Macerator: 2x Tungstate Dust Sheldonite Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Platinum Dust + 1x Nickel Dust + 2x Iridium Nuggets Indus. Grinder + Mercury Cell: 3x Platinum Dust + 1x Nickel Dust + 2x Iridium Nuggets Pulverizer: 2x Platinum Dust + (10% Chance) Iridum Ore Induction Smelter: 2x Platinum Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Macerator: 2x Platinum Dust Smelt: 1x Platinum Ingot Olivine Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 1x Olivine Gem + 1.5 Olivine Dust + 2x Tiny Emerald Dust Pulverizer: 2x Olivine Dust + (10% Chance) Emerald Dust Fortune III Pick: 2.7x - 2.9x Olivine Gem (no XP) Macerator: 2x Olivine Dust Unenchanted Pick: 1x Olivine Gem (Olivine is so worthless, that extra Emerald from the Grinder/Pulverizer makes it better than Fortune) Sodalite Ore [From GregTech] (The End): (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 12x Sodalite Dust + 3x Aluminium Dust Fortune III Pick: 12x - 13x Sodalite Dust + 1x Aluminium Dust Pulverizer: 12x Sodalite Dust + (10% Chance) Aluminium Dust Macerator: 12x Sodalite Dust Unenchanted Pick: 6x Sodalite Dust + 0.3x Aluminium Dust
---- Part 2 ---- Copper Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Copper + 1x Tiny Gold + 1x Tiny Nickel Indus. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate: 3x Copper + 1x Tiny Gold + 1x Tiny Nickel Indus. Grinder + Mercury: 2x Copper + 1x Gold Dust Factorization: 1.2x-3x Induction Smelter: 2x Copper Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Pulverizer: 2x Copper Dust + (10% Chance) Gold Dust Macerator: 2x Copper Dust Tin Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Tin + 1x Tiny Iron + 1x Tiny Zinc Indus. Grinder + Sodium Persulfate: 2x Tin + 1x Tiny Iron + 1x Zinc Dust Factorization: 1.2x-3x Induction Smelter: 2x Tin Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Pulverizer: 2x Tin Dust + (10% Chance) Iron Dust Macerator: 2x Tin Dust Silver Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Silver + 2x Tiny Lead Dust Indus. Grinder + Mercury: 3x Silver + 2x Tiny Lead Dust Factorization: 2.2x-4x Slag Furnace: 1x Silver Ingot + 1.2x Lead Ingot Induction Smelter: 2x Silver Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Pulverizer: 2x Silver Dust + (10% Chance) Lead Dust Macerator: 2x Silver Dust Lead Ore [From several mods]: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 2x Lead + 2x Tiny Silver Dust Induction Smelter: 2x Lead Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Pulverizer: 2x Lead Dust + (10% Chance) Silver Dust Macerator: 2x Lead Dust Ferrous Ore: (Updated for MindCrack 8.01) Indus. Grinder: 3x Nickel Dust + 1x Tiny Platinum Dust + 1x Tiny Copper Dust Pulverizer: 2x Nickel Dust + (10% Chance) Platinum Dust Induction Smelter: 2x Ferrous Ingot + (5% Chance) Rich Slag Macerator: 2x Nickel Dust Smelt: 1x Nickel Ingot Apatite Ore: Fortune III: 6x-7x Apatite Indus. Grinder: 3x Apatite + 1x Phosphor Dust Pulverizer: 2x Apatite + (10% Chance) Phosphor Dust Macerator: 2x Apatite (Phosphor Dust has no use whatsoever) -- Edit Jan 21, 2013: Updated Nikolite for game change (added Diamond dust bonus) and expanded on gems and Sphalerite. -- Edit Feb 2, 2013: Updated for MindCrack 8.0, which means Pulverizer bonus was increased almost across the board, and Induction Smelter bonus was reduced for Rich Slag due to a balancing change by King Lemming.
Each step has a given chance of getting an extra result. Multiply the steps together and you get just barely under 300% yield. That looks the world to me like it's possible to have an ore double during the grinding, then during the smelting, then again during the crystallization resulting in a potential 8x yield, but since this is spread out across multiple chances, it lowers the standard deviation and makes outliers less common. The end results are certainly not consistent when you watch each step of the process.
This is fascinating, my only problem is just like dating You got to do a lot of work to ket the special one. Hardly seems worth it.
But but but there's a "secret" in there *lets the secret out* Pulverizer: 2x Ferrous Dust + (5% Chance) Shiny Dust [Same as Platinum] That Shiny dust (8 of) in an Industrial Centrifuge turns into Iridium Ore
Factorization grinder works with silk touch ores, you get on average 2,25 diamond or 8 redstone from ore, it even has silk touch tool. In FZ processing you are doubling most of the ores (excepts silver one) before washing, just grinding and slag furnace for it is enough.
I have to add, though, that your information on Factorization's diamond and coal yields isn't quite accurate... In addition to Zjarek_S's note on diamond and redstone, you can also use the factorization grinder on coal ore to get 3.5 coal. The situation with factorization and silver ore is quite strange, too, as you get more lead than silver out of it.
As soon as I saw it, i started trying to figure out where to shoe horn it into my list. You need sticky man.
tnx for making this we needed a mod that will say things like this in-game maybe make it so it is on the right side of the screan and show usage by pressing "U"
I hate to sound like a broken record, but your information for factorization yields is still incorrect.
Do you want to add Thaumcraft native clusters for Gold/Iron/Tin/Copper/Lead? 200% normal smelting 215-220% in an infernal furnace+ 3 arcane bellows. (2 Ingots + 1-2 nuggets + Exp) (This is also a very fast processing line)
Native Clusters are only gotten through mining with a Pickaxe of the Core or an Arcane Bore with the Pickaxe of the Core instead of a normal Pickaxe, so i don't think they're common enough to warrant their own entry... People that will be getting massive amounts of Native Clusters would be planning on doing stuff with Infernal Furnaces anyway. This list on the other hand works for about any method of mining, except for redstone/diamond ore which requires silk touch. EDIT: Also, the Macerator is great for processing insane amounts of ore, such as those gathered from multiple running quarries, or quarries running on Dense Ore ages, so it's still something to keep in mind... 10 overclocker upgrades + 2 energy storage upgrades + 2 transformer upgrades makes it able to perform on par with the Rotary Macerator.
The rotary macerator has upgrade slots, though, so it is less logical to not go with it. The induction furnace, though, does not have any upgrade slots so it is pretty worthless as such.
